Men Explain Lolita To Me

[Mark Kohut]

well, did not know she invented 'mansplaing"...and
yes, I know that Danto essay too.........and the concept is
often in my mind...and why I do not believe that art can never be
just a game....

On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 6:05 PM, John Bailey <sundayjb at gmail.com> wrote:
> I think she made some remarks somewhere about how Lolita is a pretty
> disturbing novel if you empathise with Lolita, and some blokes chimed
> in to inform her how she was reading it all wrong if she did that.
>
> Solnit was the writer to first identify mansplaining and I think it's
> a great concept. There's certainly a previously unlabeled rhetorical
> arrogance that to me isn't biologically linked to sex but definitely
> has ties to gender and power and language. I also like that the P-list
> is kinda absent of that, and that we understand you don't go round
> telling someone they're reading Pynchon wrong, actually, and here's a
> list of reasons why.
>
> Also dig her argument against defending art from all criticism because
> ART, GUYS, IT'S ART. I've had the same thought for years but never
> read it: if you think art is automatically immune from critique then
> you're saying it has no impact, no real effect, it exists in a
> hermetic bubble that admits no exchanges with our profane world. I
> think the most interesting art can have huge and reckonable effects
> and yes, governments and other authorities recognise this and can be
> troubled by it.
>
> On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 9:43 AM, Perry Noid <coolwithdoc at gmail.com> wrote:
>> She is definitely not going to win any of the people who were criticizing
>> her over whatever it was she wrote before with this piece. I can say that
>> much at least.
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 2:39 PM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Curiously uneven if you ask me...salient, brilliant points mixed with
>>> the easiest (therefore worst) ways to make her case...
>>> people posting on Facebook???...My gawd....I could do this constantly.
>>>  People, men or women, misreading a great work.....
>>>    Nabokov had HH come to a moral epiphany....seems this must be said
>>> and wasn't. Unless Ms Nabokov quote is to be equivalent.
>>>
>>> we have to identify with Lolita because common human morality....to
>>> read it right....
>>> Does she read it aright even w identification?
>>> That she framed this around mansplaining....seems too of the moment...
>>> And that many women do not have their explanations and want you to know
>>> it?
>>> but, yes, more men 'splain than women in the America I know...
>>> I think she 'projects' her feminism world too much sometimes...
>>>
>>> More talk around me I don't really 'get".
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 3:50 PM, Matthew Taylor
>>> <matthew.taylor923 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > Thoughts on Rebecca Solnit's latest?
>>> >
>>> > http://lithub.com/men-explain-lolita-to-me/
>>> -
>>> Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l
>>
>>
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