Men Explain Lolita To Me

[David Morris]

Splainin' is what Rickey was always asking Lucy to do.

Davi Morris

On Thursday, December 17, 2015, Perry Noid <coolwithdoc at gmail.com> wrote:

> Just an aside: When I was in middle school "'splaining" was the word we
> used for when someone comes up and backhands you on the crotch. One of
> those stupid things that little boys do which forced us to always be on
> guard with our hands down low ready to defend at any moment when hanging
> around in groups.
>
> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 3:26 PM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','mark.kohut at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
>> well, did not know she invented 'mansplaing"...and
>> yes, I know that Danto essay too.........and the concept is
>> often in my mind...and why I do not believe that art can never be
>> just a game....
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 6:05 PM, John Bailey <sundayjb at gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','sundayjb at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>> > I think she made some remarks somewhere about how Lolita is a pretty
>> > disturbing novel if you empathise with Lolita, and some blokes chimed
>> > in to inform her how she was reading it all wrong if she did that.
>> >
>> > Solnit was the writer to first identify mansplaining and I think it's
>> > a great concept. There's certainly a previously unlabeled rhetorical
>> > arrogance that to me isn't biologically linked to sex but definitely
>> > has ties to gender and power and language. I also like that the P-list
>> > is kinda absent of that, and that we understand you don't go round
>> > telling someone they're reading Pynchon wrong, actually, and here's a
>> > list of reasons why.
>> >
>> > Also dig her argument against defending art from all criticism because
>> > ART, GUYS, IT'S ART. I've had the same thought for years but never
>> > read it: if you think art is automatically immune from critique then
>> > you're saying it has no impact, no real effect, it exists in a
>> > hermetic bubble that admits no exchanges with our profane world. I
>> > think the most interesting art can have huge and reckonable effects
>> > and yes, governments and other authorities recognise this and can be
>> > troubled by it.
>> >
>> > On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 9:43 AM, Perry Noid <coolwithdoc at gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','coolwithdoc at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>> >> She is definitely not going to win any of the people who were
>> criticizing
>> >> her over whatever it was she wrote before with this piece. I can say
>> that
>> >> much at least.
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 2:39 PM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','mark.kohut at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Curiously uneven if you ask me...salient, brilliant points mixed with
>> >>> the easiest (therefore worst) ways to make her case...
>> >>> people posting on Facebook???...My gawd....I could do this constantly.
>> >>>  People, men or women, misreading a great work.....
>> >>>    Nabokov had HH come to a moral epiphany....seems this must be said
>> >>> and wasn't. Unless Ms Nabokov quote is to be equivalent.
>> >>>
>> >>> we have to identify with Lolita because common human morality....to
>> >>> read it right....
>> >>> Does she read it aright even w identification?
>> >>> That she framed this around mansplaining....seems too of the moment...
>> >>> And that many women do not have their explanations and want you to
>> know
>> >>> it?
>> >>> but, yes, more men 'splain than women in the America I know...
>> >>> I think she 'projects' her feminism world too much sometimes...
>> >>>
>> >>> More talk around me I don't really 'get".
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 3:50 PM, Matthew Taylor
>> >>> <matthew.taylor923 at gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','matthew.taylor923 at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>> >>> > Thoughts on Rebecca Solnit's latest?
>> >>> >
>> >>> > http://lithub.com/men-explain-lolita-to-me/
>> >>> -
>> >>> Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l
>> >>
>> >>
>>
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