Men Explain Lolita To Me
John Bailey
sundayjb at gmail.com
Thu Dec 17 20:21:09 CST 2015
Solnit praises Lolita and calls it "that masterpiece of Humbert
Humbert’s failure of empathy". Which someone would Arkansas my work
that way.
On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 1:11 PM, Charles Albert <cfalbert at gmail.com> wrote:
> An angry bint with a bludgeon looking to make her bones Arkansasing the
> justifiably celebrated work of a dead white guy?
>
> Don't see that every day.
>
> If you want a truly stimulating and exquisitely balanced investigation of
> the same question I recommend Byatt's Possession.
>
> love,
>
> cfa
>
> On Dec 17, 2015 8:59 PM, "John Bailey" <sundayjb at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> If you approach pop literary criticism with the same standards you
>> expect of Kantian philosophy you may end up with a reasonable amount
>> of stomach trouble.
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 12:24 PM, Tommy Pinecone <endaflynn345 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > I had originally extended that message to cover that point but then
>> > decided
>> > to take it away.
>> >
>> > To show the weight of thought that needs to go behind a conclusion. Kant
>> > is
>> > astoundingly painstaking, as you likely know. That's why I recommended a
>> > short introduction, the excerpts can be shocking to someone not used to
>> > it,
>> > it is an education you are not likely to find anywhere else apart from
>> > first
>> > hand in Kant. I could just as easily recommended some of Aristotle's
>> > work,
>> > but Kant is more illustrative of the point.
>> >
>> > Wittgenstein's big ideas and posthumous work are constructive in a
>> > similar
>> > way.
>> >
>> > On 18 Dec 2015 01:09, "Danny Weltman" <danny.weltman at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> What in Kant's first critique do you find helpful for hitting on "a
>> >> fast
>> >> track way to make someone who is uneducated aware of the blatant flaws
>> >> in
>> >> certain ideas and movements that are just unsustainable, and somehow
>> >> having
>> >> their day the past few years?"
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 5:03 PM, Tommy Pinecone
>> >> <endaflynn345 at gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> This is why I make it a deliberate priority not to go on Twitter or to
>> >>> follow any new intellectual voices.
>> >>>
>> >>> Every time it is some unfamiliar, alleged authority voicing a loud
>> >>> opinion that's appointed a flashy title; for some reason Twitter is
>> >>> frequently mentioned along the way.
>> >>>
>> >>> I hope the majority of you can see through this pettiness. It's
>> >>> unfortunate that we are swamped with the hack work and profound
>> >>> blanketed
>> >>> hate in modern academia, it is however a fortunate thing that we can
>> >>> merely
>> >>> look away and concentrate on human issues instead of coining new
>> >>> derogatory
>> >>> terms and stirring up the rabble with a short article.
>> >>>
>> >>> I often wonder how different these outlooks would be if these people
>> >>> were
>> >>> introduced to literature in a different way, free from ideology and
>> >>> identity-that is an unbiased, philosophical way. I make it a hard
>> >>> point with
>> >>> any aspiring student to start off with a short introduction to Kant's
>> >>> primary Critique and a short introduction to Wittgenstein's thought;
>> >>> no
>> >>> doubt it is an anomalous approach, but it's a fast track way to make
>> >>> someone
>> >>> who is uneducated aware of the blatant flaws in certain ideas and
>> >>> movements
>> >>> that are just unsustainable, and somehow having their day the past few
>> >>> years.
>> >>>
>> >>> We shouldn't have to pause to think of these things when there are
>> >>> bigger
>> >>> issues than female characters not being put in the center of the
>> >>> stage. What
>> >>> if I wanted to pen an article on how I wasn't happy with the lack of
>> >>> empathy
>> >>> Beckett shows in all of his works, to individuals of both genders no
>> >>> less?
>> >>> Sure, the circumstances are different here, but not dramatically. It's
>> >>> simply absurd. I struggle to believe these type of things when I see
>> >>> them
>> >>> being taken so seriously by so many. Makes one feel hopeless,
>> >>> especially
>> >>> when these are still the early years of the internet and the loudest
>> >>> voices
>> >>> are reaching aspiring students through social media poisoning their
>> >>> nascent
>> >>> opinions and thoughts.
>> >>>
>> >>> On 17 Dec 2015 20:51, "Matthew Taylor" <matthew.taylor923 at gmail.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thoughts on Rebecca Solnit's latest?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> http://lithub.com/men-explain-lolita-to-me/
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
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