"the story is fundamentally at odds with reality as we know it"
Mark Kohut
mark.kohut at gmail.com
Tue Dec 22 05:06:36 CST 2015
http://www.vox.com/2015/12/21/10634002/seymour-hersh-syria-joint-chiefs
On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 4:03 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
> well, the truth is ultimately credible no matter how much we disbelieve it.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Dec 21, 2015, at 9:07 PM, Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:
>>
>> It is not credible to me that Obama has supported the Arab spring. His support for the military in Egypt seems to bring that into question along with the silence about the crackdowns in Turkey, the general behavior of Saudi Arabia, Indonesia, India etc.. Please, Ishmalian, no long lectures about realpolitik and how naive I am to think that leaders can exhibit humane and democratic values.
>>
>> The
>>> On Dec 21, 2015, at 3:57 PM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Obama himself seemed to place (too much) hope in the unfolding of the
>>> spirit of the Arab Spring in Syria....
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Peter M. Fitzpatrick
>>> <petopoet at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Excellent, if not alarming, reporting on the quagmire. There are times,
>>>> (Tito, Saddam Hussein, and yes, Assad) seem to be "acceptable" dictators
>>>> that hold back the forces of civil war and massive bloodshed that follows
>>>> their removal. Always a deal with the devil, I guess, just a question of
>>>> which is worse, removal or letting them be. I think most Americans had vague
>>>> notions of another manifestation of the "Arab Spring" taking place in Syria
>>>> a few years ago, unaware of the Isil and other terroristic forces waiting to
>>>> fill in the vacuum and re-instate oppression with Wahhabi and worse
>>>> Islamism. Everything I read here only solidifies my opposition to what
>>>> Republican candidates are touting as the solution to Isil. We have been
>>>> drawn into these third world conflicts before, i.e. Viet Nam, only to pay a
>>>> high cost for little result.
>>>>
>>>> -Pete
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 8:17 PM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> He's back.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.lrb.co.uk/v38/n01/seymour-m-hersh/military-to-military
>>>>>
>>>>>
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