M & D Duck Read: still thinking on Mason.
Mark Kohut
mark.kohut at gmail.com
Sun Feb 8 04:42:25 CST 2015
Eliade's understanding of religion centers on his concept of
hierophany (manifestation of the Sacred)--a concept that includes, but
is not limited to, the older and more restrictive concept of theophany
(manifestation of a god).[87] From the perspective of religious
thought, Eliade argues, hierophanies give structure and orientation to
the world, establishing a sacred order. The "profane" space of
nonreligious experience can only be divided up geometrically: it has
no "qualitative differentiation and, hence, no orientation [is] given
by virtue of its inherent structure".[88] Thus, profane space gives
man no pattern for his behavior.
On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
> Praxis Conference @PraxisHouston
> A Catholic, a Pentecostal, and an Anglican walk into a bar....
>
> It has occurred to me that Pynchon does not end the joke in M & D because
> it hasn't ended yet....
>
> On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 6:58 PM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I say one major level that Pynchon lays down is that Mason IS
>> a Puritan, a Protestant caught in Protestant Religion deeply...he
>> is so Puritanical he is half in love with Death, all in love with
>> a 2-year dead woman; Why is this emphasized so much by Pynchon?
>> Because Protestantism in the Spirit of Capitalism is a death wish.
>>
>> Puritans don't fuck---except for baby-making;
>> Puritans are Fundamentalists, THAT deep tradition; America's
>> Puritanism descends from them.....
>>
>> And THAT is one major thematic meaning of Mason & Dixon, I say...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 6:34 PM, alice malice <alicewmalice at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Not Puritan but typical of his sect at the time, Academic and
>>> Pragmatic. Though Mason exhibits what was considered a dangerous
>>> enthusiasm, he tempers it, though it haunts him, causing him, at times
>>> to Quake. So our boys are entwined, both Pragmatic Mystics, one by
>>> choice, that is Dixon, the other by haunt and wind and history.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 6:21 AM, Monte Davis <montedavis49 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Is "Puritanism" the word you want?
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 6:16 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Overdetermined, that Freudian concept. Why does Pynchon stress Mason's
>>>>> grief so hard? Why is his Puritanism as defining repeated? Does over
>>>>> determinism apply?,
>>>>> I think it might....so, taking my cue from TRP on tendril, I
>>>>> looked it up to see if I understood it and learned this,
>>>>> over determinedly as well, along with Freud's notion.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The New Critic I. A. Richards used the idea of overdetermination in
>>>>> order to explain the importance of ambiguity in rhetoric, the
>>>>> philosophy of language, and literary criticism.
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