Fwd: M & D Read

Mark Kohut mark.kohut at gmail.com
Tue Feb 10 08:05:39 CST 2015



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> From: jochen stremmel <jstremmel at gmail.com>
> Date: February 10, 2015 at 7:44:01 AM CST
> To: Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: M & D Read
> 
> Were you asking only me?
> 
> 2015-02-10 13:51 GMT+01:00 Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>:
>> And another level of what? A kind of palimpsest? Mental mediation?
>> An internal metaphor about how we cannot experience the Other but
>> our idea of the Other. Our fantasy.
>> 
>> On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 7:46 AM, jochen stremmel <jstremmel at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > veil'd to be unveil'd, like a bride, like God's sanctuary ...
>> >
>> > 2015-02-10 12:49 GMT+01:00 alice malice <alicewmalice at gmail.com>:
>> >>
>> >> Page 57, the last sentence of the final paragraph for this chapter
>> >> .
>> >> "So they pass, Mason's women and Dixon's, with more in common than
>> >> either Astronomer will ever find out about, for even phantasms may
>> >> enjoy private lives,--shadowy, whispering, veil'd, ever safe from the
>> >> Insults of Time."
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> The Astronomers play a game.
>> >>
>> >> There must be obstacles. For Dixon, "attendant Inconveniences", "Wills
>> >> and Preferences", though these women must be "comely and willing", and
>> >> for Mason, "fair copies" of "forbidden" Rebekah.
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 5:45 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > p. 68....Pynchon's comic genius:
>> >> >
>> >> > "Though he [Cornelius] usually departs with an Erection, it is
>> >> > possible that he is feeling the pain of
>> >> > an ineptly shot Beast."
>> >> >
>> >> > Above, his wife, treated like the stereotype of an all-powerful Queen,
>> >> > like Cleopatra, the surreal absurd of White Privilege? ....is all the
>> >> > time Pynchon spends on the women, sorta about White Matriarchy here in
>> >> > Cape Town? Whereas V. and GR explored Maleness as destructive?
>> >> > -
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