CHEERLEADING FOR LAURA. Again. With a challenge.

David Morris fqmorris at gmail.com
Tue Feb 10 22:16:29 CST 2015


Its funny. tonight, as I read your post that I felt shitty. Are you female?
I think I must be more female than you, from your response. "Unreliable
Female!" Is the ageless bugaboo.

Puhleeze.

David Morris

On Thursday, February 5, 2015, Becky Lindroos <bekker2 at icloud.com> wrote:

> Astra seems to be an unreliable character,  but she’s not a narrator so we
> pretty much have to take what the omniscient narrator says at face value -
> unless the omniscient narrator is unreliable (I don’t think so).
>
> So the question becomes is Astra telling the truth - at least as she knows
> it?  -  I’d say yes -  I’d add that she probably doesn’t have any
> particular qualms about trying to get pregnant by Mason - life might be
> easier for her if she’s carrying a part white child,  perhaps as long as
> she’s allowed to keep the child.
>
> But on page 90 (Chapter 9),  as Astra is walking up Table Mountain with
> the Vroom girls to see where Mason & Dixon work, she thinks:   “ ’Tis not
> with them (M&D) your debit grows but with the African women from whom you
> take, take without pause or apology.”
>
> Imo,  Astra is doing whatever will make her life easier,  but not liking
> it much - her heart is with her people in the Droster.  She’s on the scene
> again in chapters 10, 14 and 42 - the narrator treats her pretty
> straightforwardly - having read a bit ahead on those sections I find her to
> be quite sympathetic, starting from the page I quoted.
>
> Hope there’s not too much spoilerish material here.
>
> Bekah
>
> > On Feb 5, 2015, at 1:34 PM, Keith Davis <kbob42 at gmail.com <javascript:;>>
> wrote:
> >
> > Maybe he's just giving us Ye Olde Pynchonian Jolt, pulling our
> collective leg, and at the same time, making us see the old slave/owner
> dynamic in a new and surprising way, and setting us up for more fun and
> games, at Mason's expense, and to his bewilderment, in the Vroom household.
> >
> >
> > Www.innergroovemusic.com
> > Sent from Beyond the Zero
> >
> >> On Feb 5, 2015, at 3:45 PM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Will you all RISK a judgment on Laura's particular question. PLEASE??:
> >>
> >> Is Austra telling the truth? Is the Vroom household of women
> >> just a reliably told tale in another historical novel?
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