M & D Misc. That Stoicism allusion early...

Mark Kohut mark.kohut at gmail.com
Sat Feb 14 14:30:46 CST 2015


Outside of Pynchon, Having just seen a pretty terrif
productionOthello, I looked up stuff and found reference to an essay
of T. S. Eliot's which I did not remember reading/knowing. We know
Eliot influenced TRP a lot.

In this essay entitled 'Shakespeare and the Stoicism of Seneca",
Eliot sez of stoicism that it is a(n intellectual) posture....Roman
essentially, full of law and kingship
attitudes......a "philosophy suited to slaves"...

He calls othello's  famous speech after killing Desdemona,
self-dramatization and an attempt to cheer himself up--culminating in
the modern movement of individualism down to Nietzsche (whose whole
philosophy is an attempt to 'cheer himself up")---and beyond.

Othello's speech is one of the finest examples of 'the Vice of
Pride'--the human will to see things as they are not"--Eliot sez.


https://books.google.com/books?id=D_vKq_9TfncC&pg=PA177&dq=%22shakespeare+and+the+stoicism+of+seneca%22+%2B+eliot&hl=en&sa=X&ei=-KnfVIuUGInXggSG1ICYAQ&ved=0CCMQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=%22shakespeare%20and%20the%20stoicism%20of%20seneca%22%20%2B%20eliot&f=false

ttps://books.google.com/books?id=NOvjmFqRXPEC&pg=PA162&dq=%27shakespeare+and+the+stoicism+of%22&hl=en&sa=X&ei=HKTfVK3JLYmwggTq0oPAAQ&ved=0CDAQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q='shakespeare%20and%20the%20stoicism%20of%22&f=false

Any of this resonate with anyone else re Pynchon and esp this book?
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