We were all right....Mason & Dixon

Dave Monroe against.the.dave at gmail.com
Mon Jul 20 15:36:00 CDT 2015


I blame myself.  I was simply in no condition to participate on a
regular basis @ the time.

Meanwhile, some day, the Inherent Vice group watch?

http://pdl.warnerbros.com/wbmovies/awards2014/pdf/iv.pdf

On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 1:46 PM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
> When enough are not newly reading and responding, the silence is loud.
> And one needs to be following the bouncing ball
> when one posts who is, otherwise it is not new.
>
> Too many too busy or otherwise out of the Group Read. Life in late
> capitalism ain't easy.
>
> On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 2:34 PM, David Ewers <dsewers at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> I believe you're on to something with why the group read fizzled, Mark T.,
>> although I think we had it going pretty good for a while there.  I'm not
>> sure it's impossible to maintain that managed flow-through you describe, but
>> (speaking for myself) it does seem to require some obsessing to do the
>> discussion justice.  It's tough to be obsessed for several months straight.
>> Maybe we should have built some time-outs into the schedule?
>>
>> Out of curiosity, is anyone still giving M-&D- the deep reading treatment?
>> If so, where are you?
>> I've slowed down a lot in my M-&D- reading, lightened up some, picked up
>> other books, etc., but I've got notes up to chapter 35.
>>
>> I hope everyone (in the Northern Hemisphere...) is having a bitchin' summer!
>>
>>
>> On Jul 19, 2015, at 11:44 AM have a nice day, violet wrote this message:),
>> Mark Thibodeau wrote:
>>
>> I think the reason why group reads of Pynchon tend to break down (and I say
>> this with a guilty conscience at my own part in the unraveling of the last
>> M&D group read attempt) is that his work is SO RICH and full of constant,
>> almost fractal levels of allusion and multi-contextual referencing (moreso
>> perhaps than any writer aside from Joyce) that trying to maintain some kind
>> of managed flow-through is literally impossible to do.
>>
>> Any reader takes from a work of art only that which he or she is capable of
>> taking. We all bring our own personal contexts into some kind of
>> intermeshing with the context of the work that we're approaching. Someone
>> steeped in pre-Revolutionary American history will have a different reading
>> experience from someone who knows a lot about, say, the history of science.
>> Both will find it a masterwork, but for different reasons.
>>
>> For that reason, I think Pynchon slots in with those writers who are both
>> difficult AND rewarding.
>>
>> MT
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 2:33 PM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Misc.
>>>
>>> just read an interesting essay by Stanley Greenblatt, Shakespeare and
>>> Beyond
>>> Scholar---this essay is on Milton, however---that applies to many a great
>>> writer
>>> including our writer from Long Island.......
>>>
>>> Thesis: The depth of full scholarship analysis of such as Milton, say
>>> another
>>> long book on all the subtleties and breadth and depth of his politics
>>> explored thru
>>> his major poems......tends to kill why he is great.....
>>>
>>> The poetry on the page.
>>>
>>> Discuss.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 2:07 PM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > is an incredible book....
>>> >
>>> > Throw out more stuff about....
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