Odds of another Pynchon novel
Mark Thibodeau
jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com
Tue Jun 16 15:49:02 CDT 2015
"GR may be read as a response to Pig and Profane and the whole sick crew's
abortion. "
Please elaborate on this abortion.
J
On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 6:28 AM, Jerome Park <jeromepark3141 at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Partial Faiths: Postsecular Fiction in the Age of Pynchon and Morrison By
> John A. McClure
>
> search for Gnostic Pynchon in this Google book and read a fine synopsis of
> Eddins.
>
> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 5:54 AM, Jerome Park <jeromepark3141 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> But it is Adams's Education, and, satirically, Stencil's quest or search
>> for meaning, for identity and causality, for what, for Adams, is lost and
>> can't be recovered, the Force that he describes in the famous chapter on
>> the Virgin, that is formative. Not so White Godless or Frazer...Eliade etc.
>> The Virgin force, mysterious and fecund has degenerated into the inanimate.
>>
>> It's Christmas Eve, but the Virgin will not deliver. Still, the force of
>> Mother is all around, yet only the Father, in fragments is known. But She
>> is. GR may be read as a response to Pig and Profane and the whole sick
>> crew's abortion.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 11:18 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It goes much deeper than Adams. The Virgin isn't owned by Adams. His is
>>> but one framing.
>>>
>>> On Monday, June 15, 2015, Jerome Park <jeromepark3141 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> They are tools that can be discarded. But what are the forces that use
>>>> them? Brock has his funding cut, not by anything mysterious, insidious, or
>>>> monstrous, but by government agency. Windust is a tool of government
>>>> agency and its cumbersome and often ineffectual ventures with multinational
>>>> business and agency.
>>>>
>>>> In contrast, in GR, the monstrous and insidious forces are invisible
>>>> and mysterious, beyond the comprehension of, let alone, the reach of any
>>>> coordinated counter cultural resistance. The force is, for lack of a
>>>> better term, as Dwight Eddins so artfully and elequantly describes it, a
>>>> Gnostic Force. This force is born from Pynchon's readings of Adams and is
>>>> the driving force or theme that makes V. a masterpiece first novel.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 7:46 AM, Thomas Eckhardt <
>>>> thomas.eckhardt at uni-bonn.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Brock? Windust? Not forces invisible, mysterious, insidious,
>>>>> monstrous. Just here and now. So What? "
>>>>>
>>>>> Whatever else they may be, Vond and Windust are also tools of "forces
>>>>> invisible, mysterious, insidious, monstrous." Tools which can be discarded
>>>>> at any time.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
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