Thomas Pynchon, High Theory, and the Legacy of the Long Sixties

[alice malice]

My favorite scene in the recent Pynchon film is when Larry meets a mom
and daughter combo in a parking lot to exchange the drugs for the sax
player's liberty; Doc can't help ogling the daughter who looks to be
about 12. After calling him on his lechery, she gives him the finger.
Fuck you! Yeah, u,, yeah, fuck me.

>From Kim Dufay, a slender, exotic-looking sixth-grader with blond
pigtails that hung to her waist and Gaylord, the infatuated Sophomore
shot-putter who just liked them young to Doc, the short eye American
male is a Pynchon constant. The exact age of Bianca seems beside the
point.


On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 1:55 PM, jochen stremmel <jstremmel at gmail.com> wrote:
> The wiki would have been enough:
>
> How old IS Bianca?
>
> Slothrop thinks, "Bianca's a knockout, alright: 11 or 12, dark and lovely
> [...]" (p.463), but how old is Bianca, really? Well ...
>
> Bianca is conceived during the filming of Alpdrücken ("I think Bianca is
> [Schlepzig's] child. She was conceived while we were filming this." - p.395)
> Ilse was conceived after Franz Pökler saw Alpdrücken ("he knew that had to
> be the night, Alpdrücken night, that Ilse was conceived." - p.397)
> Leni had already given birth to Ilse when she was seeing Peter Sachsa, e.g.
> "Ilse is awake, and crying. [...] They ought to try Peter after all. He'll
> have milk." (p.163); and Sachsa is killed during a street action in 1930
> ("Taken forcibly over in 1930 by a blow from a police truncheon [...]" -
> p.152)
> Placing Bianca's conception, say, 6 months to a year before Ilse's
> (depending on how long it took for Alpdrücken to reach the theatres and how
> long it took Franz Pökler to go see it), Bianca's birth would have been in
> 1928 or 1929.
> Slothrop meets Bianca aboard the Anubis in 1945.
>
> Thus Bianca must be 16 or 17, yes? (Thanks to John M. Krafft and to Bernard
> Duyfhuizen, of Pynchon Notes, for the above sleuthing.)
>
> –––––––––––––––––
>
> A-and Slothrop himself gives her 12 years, the age of Juliet, if I'm not
> mistaken. Seems to be a bit sloppy, that Letzler fellow.
>
>
>
>
> 2015-03-06 17:45 GMT+01:00 Monte Davis <montedavis49 at gmail.com>:
>>
>> Still with us:
>>
>> "...the polymorphous perversity embodied by the sexual bacchanals aboard
>> the Anubis during the book's middle actually don't [sic] seem entirely
>> positive, as with Slothrop's abusive, pedophiliac encounter with the
>> eleven-year-old Bianca..."
>>
>> As Letzler begins by calling Weisenburger's _GR Companion_ "the most
>> indispensable Pynchon book," one wishes he'd consulted it: "Wrong. She has
>> to be 16 or 17 years old." (2nd ed., p. 259)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 3:02 PM, Dave Monroe <against.the.dave at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.academia.edu/11293529/Thomas_Pynchon_High_Theory_and_the_Legacy_of_the_Long_Sixties
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