M&D - Chapter 18 - Rather early for a Ploughman's Lunch
Johnny Marr
marrja at gmail.com
Wed Mar 25 22:23:05 CDT 2015
Sorry Allan - it's pickle in the British sense. Usually Branston pickle,
sometimes picallili (which your friend introduced you to), occasionally
pickled onions
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Branston_%28brand%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piccalilli
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 3:04 AM, Allan Balliett <allan.balliett at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Johnny - Do you mind defining 'pickle' in a ploughman's lunch as opposed
> to, say, 'pickle' on a burger from McDonalds in the states? As an American
> I was baffled when I was introduced to British (indian?) 'pickle' by a
> British university student who was interning with me a few years back.
>
> -Allan in WV, where 'pickle' and 'jam' are sometimes synonymous
>
> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 10:23 PM, Johnny Marr <marrja at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Our heroes return, "back with Senses Boggl'd from War, Slavery,
>> Successful, Obs, the wind at St Helena, unaccustom'd Respect from their
>> Peers". In short, they have seen the stars, and the darker side of mankind,
>> yet arrived home as a newfound success. They decide not to reveal and
>> misgivings when they address the Royal Society, omitting any concerns about
>> Maskeylne as they "find they have nothing but good to say of all they have
>> met at St. Helena and the Cape".
>>
>> The Tops a-spin comment suggests both the giddy daze of new celebrity,
>> but possibly also that they are unwitting pieces in some greater force's
>> game?
>>
>> Dixon soon leaves home - he is a man of simpler pleasures than London
>> insists upon, unmpressed by a lunchtime helping at the Mitre, instead left
>> reminiscing about The Jolly Pitman in Staindrop (An actual pub? A
>> convincing name? Or an oblique reference to Northern English mining
>> communities, the forgotten furnace of the Empire?)
>>
>> The Ploughman's Lunch continues the cheese theme - in case you've not
>> sampled the delights of British pub food, it's essentially a big slice of
>> cheese (nothing fancy, preferably Cheddar or Stilton), with plenty of
>> pickle and butter, sandwiched between two thick sliced crusts and with a
>> side order ranging from beetroot, aplles, miniature salads and Scotch eggs).
>>
>> Yet our close and trusted advisor wikipedia informs us that the
>> Ploughman's lunch is a neo-classical culinary invention - introduced in the
>> 1960s to invoke a traditional British pub menu that never existed in the
>> first place. In short, TRP seems guilty of an anachronism! Scandalous
>>
>>
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://waste.org/pipermail/pynchon-l/attachments/20150326/7ce575e6/attachment.html>
More information about the Pynchon-l
mailing list