My Fair Ladies

[David Morris]

In Kali's story I meant to point out the lack of control one has after
unleashing power, not slavery. Kali is slave to none.

A cautionary mythology of many facets is invoked, all about the need o
control or win against an enemy is central. Becoming God isn't fair play,
and it will bite your ass!

David Morris


On Thursday, May 7, 2015, John Bailey <sundayjb at gmail.com> wrote:

> The Judeo-Christian context is important I think, and maybe keys into
> Greek and Roman ideas about the rebellious subject too. All
> hierarchical myths in which the subjugated (children, slaves, mortals
> vs gods, artificially created lifeforms) are figured as dangerous
> potential rebels.
>
> Different story in cultures more informed by Buddhist and animist
> tradition.
>
> Don't know enough about the Hindu mythos, although I think Hinduism
> recognises artificial beings as still potentially having sentience.
>
> On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 11:31 AM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > Th image:
> > http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/Kalima.jpg
> >
> >
> > On Thursday, May 7, 2015, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Kali on the battlefield. Naked except for the drawings of limbs and
> heads
> >> of her killings. Shiva lays peacefully at her feet.
> >> Kali was a Feminist.
> >>
> >> David Morris
> >>
> >> On Thursday, May 7, 2015, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I think the concept, even in Jewish tradition, is of mixed results. To
> >>> attempt creation of a subservient life is a usurpation of God's realm,
> and
> >>> thus is bound to backfire. To attempt even to control Fate, to change
> its
> >>> course, is wrought with danger. The golem, after it does it's doing is
> hard
> >>> to put back in the bottle.
> >>>
> >>> Wrath unleashed is hard to then stop. The goddess Kali, protective
> >>> mother, unleashed her wrath on the battlefield, and became frenzied,
> killing
> >>> everyone in her path, even her own children. Shiva had to lay down and
> offer
> >>> his own life to get her to stop. Had she killed him, all creation
> would have
> >>> disappeared.
> >>>
> >>> David Morris
> >>>
> >>> On Thursday, May 7, 2015, rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com <javascript:;>>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> a bit more nuanced in the Jewish tradition, no? as protector despite
> its
> >>>> unnatural origins?
> >>>>
> >>>> rich
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 10:50 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com
> <javascript:;>>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This is the female version of a golum. Golums always exact a
> >>>>> counter-force (karma) because they are forced, unnatural, in
> Pynchon's
> >>>>> universe. They are Technology: human meddling in  some concept of a
> natural
> >>>>> order. In V. this desire for control is embodied embodied (a
> stand-in for
> >>>>> Everything) in Fetishism, which is just a degree or so shy of
> Necro-desire.
> >>>>> The desperate need for Control embodied by Technology is a
> super-mortal Sin
> >>>>> infecting raw humanity, in Pynchon's universe. Humans trying to
> usurp God
> >>>>> (Lucicer's Sin). Pynchon is a very religious/mystic writer.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> And it is also clear that all of the above nature of humanity's sin
> are
> >>>>> massively amplified by Capitalism.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> David Morris
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Wednesday, May 6, 2015, Dave Monroe <against.the.dave at gmail.com
> <javascript:;>>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> My Fair Ladies
> >>>>>> Female Robots, Androids, and Other Artificial Eves
> >>>>>> Julie Wosk (Author)
> >>>>>> 240 pages, 60 black and white and 12 color photographs
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> [...]
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The fantasy of a male creator constructing his perfect woman dates
> >>>>>> back to the Greek myth of Pygmalion and Galatea. Yet as technology
> has
> >>>>>> advanced over the past century, the figure of the lifelike manmade
> >>>>>> woman has become nearly ubiquitous, popping up in everything from
> >>>>>> Bride of Frankenstein to Weird Science to The Stepford Wives. Now
> >>>>>> Julie Wosk takes us on a fascinating tour through this bevy of
> >>>>>> artificial women, revealing the array of cultural fantasies and
> fears
> >>>>>> they embody.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> My Fair Ladies considers how female automatons have been represented
> >>>>>> as objects of desire in fiction and how “living dolls” have been
> >>>>>> manufactured as real-world fetish objects. But it also examines the
> >>>>>> many works in which the “perfect” woman turns out to be artificial—a
> >>>>>> robot or doll—and thus becomes a source of uncanny horror. Finally,
> >>>>>> Wosk introduces us to a variety of female artists, writers, and
> >>>>>> filmmakers—from Cindy Sherman to Shelley Jackson to Zoe Kazan—who
> have
> >>>>>> cleverly crafted their own images of simulated women.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Anything but dry, My Fair Ladies draws upon Wosk’s own experiences
> as
> >>>>>> a young female Playboy copywriter and as a child of the “feminine
> >>>>>> mystique” era to show how images of the artificial woman have loomed
> >>>>>> large over real women’s lives. Lavishly illustrated with film
> stills,
> >>>>>> artwork, and vintage advertisements, this book offers a fresh look
> at
> >>>>>> familiar myths about gender, technology, and artistic creation.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> [...]
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://rutgerspress.rutgers.edu/product/My-Fair-Ladies,5458.aspx
> >>>>>> -
> >>>>>> Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?listpynchon-l
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >
>
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