Movie: Inherent Vice

David Morris fqmorris at gmail.com
Mon May 25 18:41:05 CDT 2015


Dave, you and she take your fiction WAY too seriously.

David Morris

On Monday, May 25, 2015, Dave Monroe <against.the.dave at gmail.com> wrote:

> I actually recommended to a friend that she see the movie 1st, as it
> streamlines the plot(s)/theme(s) well (enough).  So she of course read
> the book 1st, + immediately started arguing w/ me four sentences in
> (so, again, if anyone has definitive proof of the existence of a
> Conutry Joe & The Fish  t-shirt [as eventually seen in the movie,
> albeit more of a gig poster printed on a shirt, w/ Iron Butterfly et
> al. ...]).  I ultimately noted that, well, everybody can make a
> mistake (which Pynchon does in IV, calling Lew Alcindor Kareem Abdul
> Jabbar a season too early), but made the fatal faux pas of sending
> along a site enumerating the mathematical mistakes in Infinite Jest
> (her Big Novel of choice, that + The Man without Qualities [q.v.]).
> Took it as a personal attack (which apparently going after my favorite
> author wasn't ... but I'm obviously used to bickering about Pynchon,
> so ...).  Shoulda gone w/ Wm. S's shores o' Bohemia ...
>
> On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 6:01 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > Yes. The "makes sense" aspect does make it *less* Pynchonian. But that's
> OK.
> >
> >
> > On Monday, May 25, 2015, John Bailey <sundayjb at gmail.com <javascript:;>>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> The movie is a neater, more streamlined version of the book. Made
> >> total sense to me, ie there were no loose ends or cryptic signifiers
> >> that left me scratching my head. Seriously don't get the reviewers who
> >> said 'not getting it is the point!'
> >>
> >> Then again, all of this kind of makes it *less* Pynchonian, but still
> >> kinda more enjoyable than the book itself imho.
> >>
> >> On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 8:05 AM, Dave Monroe <
> against.the.dave at gmail.com <javascript:;>>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/inherent-vice-from-page-to-screen-the-6-biggest-changes-from-the-book-20141215
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2014/12/19/inherent_vice_book_vs_movie_how_pynchon_s_novel_paul_thomas_anderson_s_movie.html
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 4:49 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com
> <javascript:;>>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >> I just now saw IV movie on DVD.  I liked it a lot. Might the movie be
> >> >> better
> >> >> than the book?  Is there a source that judges how close the movie and
> >> >> book
> >> >> compare? Still, it felt a lot like Pynchon to me.
> >> >>
> >> >> David Morris
> >> >>
> >> > -
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