Movie: Inherent Vice

David Morris fqmorris at gmail.com
Mon May 25 19:01:54 CDT 2015


It's good to have protagonists. I'm very Irish, true to my
bombastic/combative nature, loving debate as if it were a surgical video
battle, so please pardon my ire. Cherish your someones.

David Morris

On Monday, May 25, 2015, Dave Monroe <against.the.dave at gmail.com> wrote:

> Not me.  This is somoen who took my preference for ELO to Steely Dan
> (despite her being a big pop music fan, + my admitting that  SD is the
> "better" band, I just enjoy my major-chord pop record, is all--was
> called "an emotional terrorist," cut off for another couple of weeks.
> For example).  But she just moved back to town (her husband works from
> home, can live pretty much anywhere), going w/ her + the kids to
> http://county.milwaukee.gov/MitchellParkConserva10116.htm tomorrow.
>
> Here's my (un)god kids, by the way (parents ex-Catholic atheists):
>
> Star Wars "Machete Order" reviewed by 6 & 8-year-old boys.
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jn3Y4Dj2qyw>
>
> http://www.lifebeforethedinosaurs.com
>
>
> https://about.flipboard.com/inside-flipboard/on-the-red-couch-art-capps-of-life-before-the-dinosaurs/
>
> On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 6:41 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > Dave, you and she take your fiction WAY too seriously.
> >
> > David Morris
> >
> >
> > On Monday, May 25, 2015, Dave Monroe <against.the.dave at gmail.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>
> >> I actually recommended to a friend that she see the movie 1st, as it
> >> streamlines the plot(s)/theme(s) well (enough).  So she of course read
> >> the book 1st, + immediately started arguing w/ me four sentences in
> >> (so, again, if anyone has definitive proof of the existence of a
> >> Conutry Joe & The Fish  t-shirt [as eventually seen in the movie,
> >> albeit more of a gig poster printed on a shirt, w/ Iron Butterfly et
> >> al. ...]).  I ultimately noted that, well, everybody can make a
> >> mistake (which Pynchon does in IV, calling Lew Alcindor Kareem Abdul
> >> Jabbar a season too early), but made the fatal faux pas of sending
> >> along a site enumerating the mathematical mistakes in Infinite Jest
> >> (her Big Novel of choice, that + The Man without Qualities [q.v.]).
> >> Took it as a personal attack (which apparently going after my favorite
> >> author wasn't ... but I'm obviously used to bickering about Pynchon,
> >> so ...).  Shoulda gone w/ Wm. S's shores o' Bohemia ...
> >>
> >> On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 6:01 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >> > Yes. The "makes sense" aspect does make it *less* Pynchonian. But
> that's
> >> > OK.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Monday, May 25, 2015, John Bailey <sundayjb at gmail.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> The movie is a neater, more streamlined version of the book. Made
> >> >> total sense to me, ie there were no loose ends or cryptic signifiers
> >> >> that left me scratching my head. Seriously don't get the reviewers
> who
> >> >> said 'not getting it is the point!'
> >> >>
> >> >> Then again, all of this kind of makes it *less* Pynchonian, but still
> >> >> kinda more enjoyable than the book itself imho.
> >> >>
> >> >> On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 8:05 AM, Dave Monroe
> >> >> <against.the.dave at gmail.com <javascript:;>>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/inherent-vice-from-page-to-screen-the-6-biggest-changes-from-the-book-20141215
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2014/12/19/inherent_vice_book_vs_movie_how_pynchon_s_novel_paul_thomas_anderson_s_movie.html
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 4:49 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com
> <javascript:;>>
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >> I just now saw IV movie on DVD.  I liked it a lot. Might the movie
> >> >> >> be
> >> >> >> better
> >> >> >> than the book?  Is there a source that judges how close the movie
> >> >> >> and
> >> >> >> book
> >> >> >> compare? Still, it felt a lot like Pynchon to me.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> David Morris
> >> >> >>
> >> >> > -
> >> >> > Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l
>
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