,Re: In case no one else saw this

ish mailian ishmailian at gmail.com
Wed Nov 18 08:19:13 CST 2015


While I agree that the narrative, "they hate us for our freedom" is being
trotted out again, and that such narratives are used to divert attention
from the atrocities committed by the West (the US, NATO, G-20, the partners
and proxies that are, made and then destroyed...etc.), there is some truth
in the narrative. The losers who murdered the innocent concert goers,
people out enjoying themselves at sporting events, restaurants.... in a
free and open society, were motivated by hatred of the liberties these
innocent citizens were exercising and enjoying. One of the objectives of
terror is to instill such fear that people will not go out and enjoy their
freedoms. That the West has committed far greater atrocities, curtailing
and preventing the exercise of liberty in the states and regions that the
losers claim to be defending, taking revenge for, does not debunk the
narrative entirely. The media, the press, the political machines of
propaganda on all sides, trots out these narratives, not only to divert
attention from the murder of innocence, the destruction of infrastructure,
art....but because the narratives work, not merely as diversion, but as
justification for more murder. The losers do hate us because we have more
freedom, more wealth, more power, more and better weapons, more influential
cultural powers ....etc....this is a fact. That is reduced to a propaganda
narrative and that is works should surprise no one, but to deconstruct it
required a more complex analysis. Not that I'm critiquing anyone here, or
arguing that a complex critique can be read in under 3 hours.



On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 7:07 AM, Thomas Eckhardt <
thomas.eckhardt at uni-bonn.de> wrote:

> I certainly agree with you that Newton's law is not applicable here. I
> merely share, obviously, the author's opposition to the "they hate us for
> our freedoms" narrative which is now being trotted out again in order to
> deflect from our own atrocities.
>
> Thanks for the link. I will check it out.
>
> Am 17.11.2015 um 21:40 schrieb Robert Mahnke:
>
>> I'm not sure I disagree with that article, Thomas, but I also don't
>> think it has a lot of explanatory force.  And when the article says,
>> "The inconvenient truth is that geopolitics is governed as much as is
>> physics by Newton’s third law of motion: 'For every action there is an
>> equal and opposite reaction'" it is obviously wrong.  ISIS can't bomb
>> Paris in the fashion that France is bombing it, so it turns to
>> asymmetric warfare, but the way that it acts is also obviously a
>> function of its particular ideology, which is to say its religious
>> doctrines.
>>
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