,Re: In case no one else saw this

[Paul Mackin]

Ok to hate jihadist I thot
On Nov 18, 2015 8:58 PM, "Mark Thibodeau" <jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com> wrote:

> I am finding it difficult to understand why it's okay to hate National
> Socialists as a group, but NOT Islamic fundamentalists. After all, NOT ALL
> NAZIS, like, worked in concentration camps, you know! And weren't they
> defending themselves and their homeland during a time of, like, WAR?
>
> At what point does the cognitive dissonance result in a destructive
> resonance feedback loop that shakes all of reality apart?
>
> J
>
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 5:42 PM, ish mailian <ishmailian at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> ah, the press. The first essay suggests there is a far more productive
>> way to think about the IS:
>>
>> " It is much more productive to think about what the Islamic State’s
>> combatants, or those of any other extremist group, or ordinary, peaceable
>> Iraqis or Syrians want to live for."
>>
>> But the essay, after this fine suggestion, resorts to blaming us and
>> those in the press for failing to follow this line of thought, then
>> launches a nutshell reading of history that dumps more blame on us. The
>> second essay is more of the same, blame, blame, blame.
>>
>> What do the extremists want to live for?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 3:48 PM, Thomas Eckhardt <
>> thomas.eckhardt at uni-bonn.de> wrote:
>>
>>> The topic at hand is also discussed here:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.salon.com/2015/11/18/its_paul_krugman_vs_noam_chomsky_this_is_the_history_we_need_to_understand_paris_isis/
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.salon.com/2015/11/15/we_brought_this_on_ourselves_after_paris_it_is_time_to_square_our_values_with_our_history/
>>>
>>> In this case, as in the case of Ukraine, I generally agree with Smith
>>> without supporting every claim he makes.
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 18.11.2015 um 15:19 schrieb ish mailian:
>>>
>>>> While I agree that the narrative, "they hate us for our freedom" is
>>>> being trotted out again, and that such narratives are used to divert
>>>> attention from the atrocities committed by the West
>>>>
>>>
>>> (...)
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> P.S. Did Bush say "freedom" or "freedoms"?
>>>
>>
>>
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