Re: GR translation: checking out tits ‘n’ asses, waistlines ‘n’ baskets

[Keith Davis]

That seemed a stretch....


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> On Oct 14, 2015, at 12:14 AM, "kelber at mindspring.com" <kelber at mindspring.com> wrote:
> 
> I agree with Jochen that, having just used the word "tits," Pynchon is unlikely to immediately use a second word with the same meaning. Both the urban dictionary link cited by Jochen and the OED define basket as sometimes referring to male crotch-bulge, and this seems like the most likely meaning in this context. Especially since the person doing the looking is described as a transectite - a play on transvestite - a man who might very well be checking out both female and male body parts.
> 
> The Ella song derives from one of the nursery rhymes I remember from childhood, in which the word " basket" refers to ... A basket.
> 
> Laura
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> Keith Davis <kbob42 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I love Ella, and breasts....
> 
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>> On Oct 13, 2015, at 11:11 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> In this Ella context, I think the proverbial basket is also often also called many other containers...
>> 
>> But a translation won't be able, normally, to include these allusions.  Be literal, and let the reader dig for meaning.
>> 
>> David Morris
>> 
>> David Morris
>> 
>>> On Tuesday, October 13, 2015, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Ella Fitzgerald - A-Tisket, A-Tasket (High Quality - Remastered)
>>> Lyrics
>>> A-tisket A-tasket
>>> A brown and yellow basket
>>> I send a letter to my mommy
>>> On the way I dropped it
>>> I dropped it
>>> I dropped it
>>> Yes on the way I dropped it
>>> A little girlie picked it up
>>> And put it in her pocket
>>> SHE WAS TRUCKIN ON DOWN THE AVENUE
>>> Not a single thing to do
>>> She went peck peck pecking all around
>>> When she spied it on the ground
>>> She took it
>>> She took it
>>> My little yellow basket
>>> And if she doesn't bring it back I think that I will die
>>> A-tisket A-tasket
>>> I lost my yellow basket
>>> And if the girlie don't return it
>>> Don't know know what I'll do
>>> Oh dear I wonder where my basket can be
>>> (So do we, so do we, so do we, so do we, so do we)
>>> Oh gee I wish that little girl I could see
>>> (So do we, so do we, so do we, so do we, so do we)
>>> Oh why… Full lyrics on Google Play
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Tuesday, October 13, 2015, Keith Davis <kbob42 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Of all the available words, breasts seems the warmest and most intimate. I'm sticking with that...
>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 9:54 AM, Jochen Stremmel <jstremmel at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> basket for breasts in this context seems rather unlikely as we have the tits just a few words before. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> In the urban dictionary I found that: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=basket: Could mean balls, obviously, but vagina too. Take your pick?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2015-10-13 12:16 GMT+02:00 Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>:
>>>>>> Baskets, noun, the female breasts, ROUTLEDGE DICT OF MODERN SLANG, interestingly no citation earlier than 1965. An anachronistic usage from the fountainhead of the sixties. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Oct 13, 2015, at 2:01 AM, Jochen Stremmel <jstremmel at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I would think the things normal bras have two of.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 2015-10-13 5:36 GMT+02:00 Dave Monroe <against.the.dave at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>> Best ... P-List ... subject line ... ever ...
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 9:42 PM, Mike Jing
>>>>>>>> <gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> > V653.4-14   But he gets no farther than Nürnberg, where his valise, with
>>>>>>>> > Byron wrapped inside in an alb, is ripped off by a transsectite, a Lutheran
>>>>>>>> > named Mausmacher who likes to dress up in Roman regalia. This Mausmacher,
>>>>>>>> > not content with standing in front of his own mirror making papal crosses,
>>>>>>>> > thinks it will be a really bizarre kick to go out to the Zeppelin field to a
>>>>>>>> > Nazi torchlight rally in full drag, and walk around blessing people at
>>>>>>>> > random. Green torches flaring, red swastikas, twinkling brasses and Father
>>>>>>>> > Mausmacher, checking out tits ‘n’ asses, waistlines ‘n’ baskets, humming a
>>>>>>>> > clerical little tune, some Bach riff, smiling as he moves through the Sieg
>>>>>>>> > Heils and choruses of “Die Fahne Hoch.”
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > What is the basket in "waistlines ‘n’ baskets"?
>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>> Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?listpynchon-l
>>>> 
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