GR translation: God under the aspect of Atropos
Dave Monroe
against.the.dave at gmail.com
Tue Sep 8 20:00:13 CDT 2015
I guess I can assume nobody ever actually reads my notes here, alas.
On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 8:38 AM, Mike Jing <gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks, Monte. That's what comes up on top in Google. I'm just not sure if
> there's any extended meaning I'm missing in "God under the aspect of
> Atropos".
>
> On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 2:09 AM, Monte Davis <montedavis49 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Perspective, angle of vision, viewpoint/point of view... compare the
>> cluster here in Wikipedia:
>>
>> Sub specie aeternitatis (Latin for "under the aspect of eternity"),[1] is,
>> from Baruch Spinoza onwards, an honorific expression describing what is
>> universally and eternally true, without any reference to or dependence upon
>> the temporal portions of reality.
>>
>> In clearer English, sub specie aeternitatis roughly means "from the
>> perspective of the eternal". Even more loosely, the phrase is used to
>> describe an alternative or objective point of view.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 12:09 AM, Mike Jing <gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Also, there are two other instances of the phrase in the book:
>>>
>>> V239.21-24 So was the Rocket’s terrible passage reduced, literally, to
>>> bourgeois terms, terms of an equation such as that elegant blend of
>>> philosophy and hardware, abstract change and hinged pivots of real metals
>>> which describes motion under the aspect of yaw control:
>>>
>>> V411.14-18 Here, here’s the rundown on Kekulé’s problem. Started out to
>>> become an architect, turned out instead to be one of the Atlantes of
>>> chemistry, most of the organic wing of that useful edifice bearing down on
>>> top of his head forever—not just under the aspect of IG, but of World,
>>> assuming that’s a distinction you observe, heh, heh.
>>>
>>> Here, it seems to mean "from the perspective of".
>>>
>>> And a slight variation:
>>>
>>> V610.3-7 And “Solange,” oddly enough, is dreaming of Bianca too, though
>>> under a different aspect: it’s of her own child, Ilse, riding lost through
>>> the Zone on a long freight train that never seems to come to rest. She isn’t
>>> unhappy, nor is she searching, exactly, for her father. But Leni’s early
>>> dream for her is coming true. She will not be used.
>>>
>>> Here, it seems to mean "from a different perspective".
>>>
>>> Please correct me if I'm wrong.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 12:05 AM, Mike Jing
>>> <gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> So it's definitely a reference to astrology then? I wasn't sure if the
>>>> phrase "under the aspect of" is actually used in that context.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 4:54 AM, Dave Monroe <against.the.dave at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "In astrology, an aspect is an angle the planets make to each other in
>>>>> the horoscope, and also to the ascendant, midheaven, descendant and
>>>>> nadir. The aspects are measured by the angular distance along the
>>>>> ecliptic in degrees and minutes of celestial longitude between two
>>>>> points, as viewed from the earth. They indicate focal points in the
>>>>> horoscope where the energies involved are given extra emphasis. The
>>>>> astrological aspects are said to influence affairs on Earth according
>>>>> to millennia of astrological tradition."
>>>>>
>>>>> [...]
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.ancient-symbols.com/astrology_symbols.html (scroll down for
>>>>> symbols)
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 3:24 AM, Dave Monroe
>>>>> <against.the.dave at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> > "n astrology, an aspect is an angle the planets make to each other in
>>>>> > the horoscope, and also to the ascendant, midheaven, descendant,
>>>>> > lower
>>>>> > midheaven, and other points of astrological interest. Aspects are
>>>>> > measured by the angular distance in degrees and minutes of ecliptic
>>>>> > longitudebetween two points, as viewed from Earth. According to
>>>>> > astrological tradition, they indicate the timing of transitions and
>>>>> > developmental changes in the lives of people and affairs relative to
>>>>> > the Earth."
>>>>> >
>>>>> > [...]
>>>>> >
>>>>> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrological_aspect
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 3:22 AM, Mike Jing
>>>>> > <gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >> V643.7-15 “Hey Pensiero,” calls Paddy McGonigle, ya still hearin’
>>>>> >> dat
>>>>> >> sound?”
>>>>> >> “Yeah uh I t’ink it’s a mouth-organ,” Pensiero busily combing
>>>>> >> up
>>>>> >> single hairs, cutting each one a slightly different length, going
>>>>> >> back again
>>>>> >> and again to touch up here and there . . . God is who knows their
>>>>> >> number.
>>>>> >> Atropos is who severs them to different lengths. So, God under the
>>>>> >> aspect of
>>>>> >> Atropos, she who cannot be turned, is in possession of Eddie
>>>>> >> Pensiero
>>>>> >> tonight.
>>>>> >> “I got your mouth organ,” jeers Paddy, “right here! Look! A
>>>>> >> wop
>>>>> >> clarinet!”
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> What does "under the aspect of" mean here?
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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