It's about music!

Fri Apr 1 14:14:18 CDT 2016

Then there is the "Himmler has only one left ball" thing, which does fit a
tune, which I can't remember the name of right now, but I seem to remember
is a military thing...That might not even be an original lyric of Mr. P's...

On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 3:12 PM, Keith Davis <kbob42 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Isn't there a Pynchon fakebook out there somewhere? Maybe I'm thinking of
> Monty Python...In any case, I think at least the majority of the songs are
> just lyrics which imply a certain type of musical phrasing. Some of them
> are trickier to get than others, and I haven't taken the time to analyze
> them all. I'm not convinced that they all work as real tunes, but if one
> took the time to explore them, that theory could be proven wrong. Knowing
> Mr. P's work, he probably took the time to make sure they do.
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> On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 3:02 PM, Smoke Teff <smoketeff at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Everything you say here, Laura, I second. Including especially
>> compliments to Kai.
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>> On Apr 1, 2016, at 1:39 PM, <kelber at mindspring.com> <
>> kelber at mindspring.com> wrote:
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>> Great stuff, Kai. It's always been a source of frustration for me that I
>> don't have the musical knowledge to make sense of what the songs might
>> potentially sound like. Hints such as "close-harmony trombones" are lost on
>> me. On first hitting those Pynchon songs, I thought it was only a matter of
>> figuring out the popular tune it was based on (like the old Mad Magazine
>> satirical songs, "sung to the tune of …"). Is it your sense, Kai (or
>> anyone) that Pynchon had exact tunes in mind when he wrote these, or is he
>> just riffing with words?  I know there've been a number of attempts at
>> adding music to Pynchon's lyrics (Just a Floozy With an Uzi). But what a
>> great project for a musicologist to write/compose a definitive
>> written/audio work on the music, employing as many hints as are available.
>>
>> Laura
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>> From: Kai Frederik Lorentzen
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>> Sent: Apr 1, 2016 8:06 AM
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>> To: pynchon -l
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>> Subject: Re: It's about music!
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>> > ... Pynchon's phrasing as a writer follows the musical
>> criteria of flow, he's the auditive type of writer (- in contrary
>> to more visually orientated authors like, for example, Ernst
>> Jünger or Claude Simon) ... Especially obvious this becomes with
>> the incorporation of songs into the novels, which is, on this
>> world-literary level, as far as I can see unique ... <
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>> While Homer could write his 'novels' still in verses ("Versepen"),
>> modern writers have, even if they're poets like Rilke ("Die
>> Aufzeichnungen des Malte Laurids Brigge", 1910), to write their
>> novels in prose. The quoted or - like most often in Pynchon's case
>> - created verses respectively song lyrics thus are a) poetry in
>> prose, b) graphic interludes and c) music in literature. All three
>> aspects play a role in Pynchon's use of songs.
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>> The idea to turn his texts temporarily into a jukebox Pynchon must
>> have had early on. Already in "Low-Lands" this becomes obvious.
>> This early short story not only contains three lines from a Noel
>> Coward song - "Is this Noel Coward or some shit?"(GR, p. 709) -,
>> but also, later on, four lines of a song Pynchon himself seems to
>> have written (at least the lyrics of it):
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>> "A ship I have got in the North Country
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>> And she goes by the name of the Golden Vanity,
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>> O, I fear she will be taken by a Spanish Ga-la-lee,
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>> As she sails by the Low-lands low."
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>> Note the "Ga-la-lee" which emphasizes the actually musical
>> dimension. In other cases, Pynchon also gives hints about the way
>> how to arrange the songs, which gives the reader the opportunity
>> to intuit the musical details. Like in the third song
>> ("Yes---I'm---the---/Fellow that's ha-ving other peop-le's
>> fan-tasies ...") of Gravity's Rainbow which appears on page 12 and
>> where it says in between:
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>> "[Now over a lotta tubas and close-harmony trombones]"
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>> Can you hear them?
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>> By the time of V, Pynchon was very sure about this special style
>> feature of his and already used it with a certain self-evidence.
>> The first chapter of V contains four songs on 34 pages. No song
>> appears in the first chapter of The Crying of Lot 49, but in the
>> second there are no less than three on just 14 pages. "The Secret
>> Integration" has drunken soldiers singing "Mine eyes have seen the
>> misery of the coming of the draft,/ And the day I got the letter
>> ...". (I was a Kriegsdienstverweigerer and did Civil Service
>> instead of going to the army, taking care of seniors who were
>> still able to live alone in their condos. It was twice the time it
>> would have been in the army, 20 instead of ten months, and thus
>> rather long when you're young, but it was an experience - actually
>> I had a client, her condo contained a samovar and an incredible
>> number of books, who had experienced the Bolshevist revolution as
>> a teenager and had stories about it to tell - I wouldn't like to
>> miss.) In Vineland, the first song appears on pp. 43-44, the
>> second on page 51, and the third on pp. 78-99; Mason & Dixon
>> offers the first song on pages 18-19, the second on pages 27-28,
>> and the third on page 34; in Against the Day the first two songs
>> appear on pp. 15 and 49-50; in Inherent Vice the first three songs
>> can be heard on pp. 43-44, 51 and 78-79. Although Pynchon seems to
>> have grown a little tired of song writing by the time of Bleeding
>> Edge - after the initial five lines from the fictional Leonard
>> Bernstein musical (pp. 55-56) where Robert Moses sings "Throw
>> those Puerto/Ricans out in the/street---It's just a/slum. Tear it
>> all/do-o-own!", the reader has to wait until pp. 152-153 before he
>> gets to hear another song -, I could imagine that this, perhaps,
>> has to do with the problems music itself is facing in our
>> retromanic times. People don't read anymore - and certainly not in
>> Pynchon novels like Vineland or Bleeding Edge! - and the music is
>> just there to provide your mobile phone with a catchy ringtone or
>> to present yourself on a Karaoke night.
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>> Here are the page numbers for the songs or fragments thereof from
>> Beyond the Zero:
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>> 8-9, 11, 12, 14-15, 61-62, 66 ("Down the toilet, lookit me,/What a
>> silly thing to do!/Hope nobody takes a pee,/Yippy dippy dippy doo
>> ..."), 67, 68, 108 (Dutch traditional), 129/136 (Suso: In Dulci
>> Jubilo), 163, 174-175, 177. This makes a song density of 14 tracks
>> in 174 pages. The best songs are, imho, to come later on in the
>> book. Here's one from pp. 229-230, sung by "rats 'n' mice", which
>> I chose because of our recent debate on behaviorism:
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>> PAVLOVIA (Beguine)
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>> It was spring in Pavlovia-a-a,
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>> I was lost, in a maze ...
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>> Lysol breezes perfumed the air,
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>> I'd been searching for days,
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>> I found you, in a cul-de-sac,
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>> As bewildered as I---
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>> We touched noses, and suddenly
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>> My heart learned how to fly!
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>> So, together, we found our way,
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>> Shared a pellet, or two ...
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>> Like an evening in some café,
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>> Wanting nothing, but you ...
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>> Autumn's come to Pavlovia-a-a,
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>> Once again, I'm alone---
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>> Finding sorrow by millivolts,
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>> Back to neurons and bone.
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>> And I think of our moments then,
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>> Never knowing your name---
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>> Nothing's left in Pavlovia,
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>> But the maze, and the game ...
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>> I wish you all a weekend with music!
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>> On 21.12.2015 12:57, Kai Frederik Lorentzen wrote:
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>> Or at least also about music ... One may see bigger themes in
>> Pynchon --- "the century's master cabal" (V, p. 226), technology,
>> "the fork in the road America never took" (GR, p. 556), or (since
>> Vineland) family --- but music, though this is rarely analyzed by
>> the academic Pyndustry, plays a certain role in all of Pynchon's
>> books ... And not just one genre of music, music in general ...
>> There's an ongoing interest in classical music, from Stravinsky in
>> V to Wagner and Puccini in Bleeding Edge, including, among other
>> things, fictional Kazoo pieces from Vivaldi (TCoL49, chapter 1)
>> and Haydn (GR, p. 711) ... But also - from McClintic Sphere's
>> saxophone playing in V over Ragtime in Against the Day to the
>> HipHop culture in Bleeding Edge - in African American music ...
>> Plus lots of other musical phenomena popping up in Pynchon's books
>> ... With Zoyd Wheeler we have, in addition to McClintic Sphere,
>> another professional musician as male protagonist, here from
>> Pynchon's second work phase ... And with Mucho Maas, who goes from
>> DJ to record producer (and from acid to blow), there is a music
>> related character as an indicator of cultural change connecting
>> Pynchon 1 with Pynchon 2 ... Equally relevant: Pynchon's phrasing
>> as a writer follows the musical criteria of flow, he's the
>> auditive type of writer (- in contrary to more visually orientated
>> authors like, for example, Ernst Jünger or Claude Simon) ...
>> Especially obvious this becomes with the incorporation of songs
>> into the novels, which is, on this world-literary level, as far as
>> I can see unique ... What do the musicians on the list say? Is
>> Pynchon - as one could perhaps say in analogy to formulations
>> like 'writer's writer' and 'musician's musician' - a, well,
>> 'musician's writer?' Let me know! ... "The old man was singing, in
>> a fine, firm baritone:/ Every night is Christmas Eve on old East
>> Main,/ Sailors and their sweethearts all agree./ Neon signs of red
>> and green/ Shine upon the friendly scene,/ Welcoming you in from
>> off the sea./ Santa's bag is filled with all your dreams come
>> true:/ Nickel beers that sparkle like champagne,/ Barmaids who all
>> love to screw,/ All of them reminding you/ It's Christmas Eve on
>> old East Main." (V, pp. 9-10) ... Cheers!
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