BtZ/BtI: Kubrick/Pynchon

David Morris fqmorris at gmail.com
Mon Apr 4 09:52:50 CDT 2016


I don't think the sections of 2001 had titles, at least not in the movie
itself.  Maybe the book did, or critics added them later?

I also think the beautiful transition from spinning bone-weapon to spinning
space station is wonderful, but depicts an obvious point, one not original
to 2001, or Pynchon.

David Morris

On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Monte Davis <montedavis49 at gmail.com> wrote:

> "Beyond the Infinite" strikes me as too generic a science-fictional phrase
> for a confident linkage with "BtZ," and I at least didn't even
> notice/remember that 2001 *had* section titles. But there is a sweet
> metaphorical parallelism between p. 8
>
> "God has plucked it [the rocket] for him [Pirate]. out of its airless sky,
> like a steel banana."
>
>
> and in 2001, the famous Kubrickian transition at the end of the prologue:
> the hominid's hominicidal bone thrown exultantly into the air, spinning,
> match-dissolving into the waltz of spaceship and space station. Surely this
> has been suggested many times before -- I mean, Weisenbuger's GR Companion
> has a V-2 banana on the cover...
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 1:01 PM, Smoke Teff <smoketeff at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Is Pynch known to have any particular relationship to *2001*?
>>
>> The last section of the movie*t *is called "Jupiter and Beyond the
>> Infinite". It comes out five years before *GR. *Hard to imagine any
>> scenario whereby Pynchon doesn't see this movie. Thus doesn't *know *his
>> title has an overt relationship to the movie chapter.
>>
>> Reminds me: there's a David Foster Wallace story in *Oblivion *called
>> "The Soul Is Not a Smithy," correcting a line from the end of *A
>> Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man *in which JJ says that the
>> soul--Dedalus's, anyway--is. A smithy.
>>
>>
>>
>
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