BtZ/BtI: Kubrick/Pynchon

Smoke Teff smoketeff at gmail.com
Mon Apr 4 14:58:55 CDT 2016


Also, it is my belief that artists/prophets/minds of Pynch's...potency...speak as much to each other as they do to everybody else. Some probably way more. 

> On Apr 4, 2016, at 9:32 AM, Monte Davis <montedavis49 at gmail.com> wrote:
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> "Beyond the Infinite" strikes me as too generic a science-fictional phrase for a confident linkage with "BtZ," and I at least didn't even notice/remember that 2001 *had* section titles. But there is a sweet metaphorical parallelism between p. 8
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> "God has plucked it [the rocket] for him [Pirate]. out of its airless sky, like a steel banana."
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> and in 2001, the famous Kubrickian transition at the end of the prologue: the hominid's hominicidal bone thrown exultantly into the air, spinning, match-dissolving into the waltz of spaceship and space station. Surely this has been suggested many times before -- I mean, Weisenbuger's GR Companion has a V-2 banana on the cover...
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>> On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 1:01 PM, Smoke Teff <smoketeff at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Is Pynch known to have any particular relationship to 2001? 
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>> The last section of the moviet is called "Jupiter and Beyond the Infinite". It comes out five years before GR. Hard to imagine any scenario whereby Pynchon doesn't see this movie. Thus doesn't know his title has an overt relationship to the movie chapter. 
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>> Reminds me: there's a David Foster Wallace story in Oblivion called "The Soul Is Not a Smithy," correcting a line from the end of A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man in which JJ says that the soul--Dedalus's, anyway--is. A smithy. 
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