What is a reliable narrator?
David Morris
fqmorris at gmail.com
Wed Apr 6 20:23:44 CDT 2016
But Slothrop isn't the source (even as frame reference) of all of GR's
narratives. The narrator has a much larger frame than Slothrup, thankfully
so. Otherwise the whole thing could be dismissed as Slothrop's fever dream.
Even David Lynch's narratives, as drenched in dream works, have structures
for grasping hold and becoming intelligible. Pychon is much more
concrete. He is the narrator, in my opinion. His message are multi-valent,
and full of paradox and delemna. He doesn't want his elaborate
construction to be dismissed as a unreliable fabrication of a character in
the book.
David Morris
On Wednesday, April 6, 2016, Gary Webb <gwebb8686 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Lets just say Slothrop is the fulcrum of the narrative... As readers we
> are put into the Slothropian frame of reference... I would argue making
> factual claims, or constructing chronology or sequence, inside Slothropian
> frame of reference is potentially unreliable... Hahhaha ya dig ??
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 6, 2016, at 7:21 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','fqmorris at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
> Would you like to describe the meaning/difference? GR has a narrator
> (maybe numerous ones), but Slothrup isn't one of them.
>
> David Morris
>
> On Wednesday, April 6, 2016, Gary Webb <gwebb8686 at gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','gwebb8686 at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
>> Maybe Narrator isn't the right word, how about interlocutor...?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Apr 6, 2016, at 6:32 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> The current thread has provided no examples of Slothrup narrating, as far
>> as I can tell. Can you provide some text as example?
>>
>> David Morris
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 5:28 PM, ish mailian <ishmailian at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> see current thread under this subject where examples are provided and
>>> the question of reliability is discussed.
>>>
>>> BtZ42, 21: Slothrop backstory in UK
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 4:45 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > Please show an example of Slothrup narrating. Then we can discuss the
>>> > reliablility of said narration. Otherwise, this is a worthless
>>> question.
>>> >
>>> > David Morris
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 3:36 PM, ish mailian <ishmailian at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Anyone care to explain?
>>> >> What do posters mean when thy say Slothrop is a reliable narrator?
>>> >>
>>> >> Hard to find anything we can rely on in this book, so if have a
>>> >> reliable narrator in Slothrop, if, we have something to hang our hats
>>> >> on. Right?
>>> >>
>>> >> Papa wasa rolling stone.....
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>>> >
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