What is a reliable narrator?
Joseph Tracy
brook7 at sover.net
Thu Apr 7 08:02:15 CDT 2016
As readers we are aleady moving from one frame of reference to another with alarming regularity. Slothrop’s take on things is one the reader is much more inclined to see as reliable than Poinstman or Pirate Prentice because he is so honestly unsure of every frame of reference that has been offered to him. He too, like the reader is shifting through ways of understanding his life, his time, who and what can be trusted.
The doubts cast on what we actually have of his own accounts are not direct textual contradictions of action but differences among spies about what can be discovered about Slothrop and his map by spying. The contradictions mentioned by the spies are based on presumptions about the map and its meaning, and dependent on after-the-fact research. The contradictions are generalizations put forth by people with a limited access to the evidence, and by people with furtive and tainted patterns of behavior. We as reader’s cannot be sure how important or real these contradictions are or if they are contradictions with Slothrop’s version of the meaning of the map, which I don’t think we actually have, or just contradictions in the spies’ own theories.
> On Apr 6, 2016, at 8:40 PM, Gary Webb <gwebb8686 at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Lets just say Slothrop is the fulcrum of the narrative... As readers we are put into the Slothropian frame of reference... I would argue making factual claims, or constructing chronology or sequence, inside Slothropian frame of reference is potentially unreliable... Hahhaha ya dig ??
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> On Apr 6, 2016, at 7:21 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Would you like to describe the meaning/difference? GR has a narrator (maybe numerous ones), but Slothrup isn't one of them.
>>
>> David Morris
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>> On Wednesday, April 6, 2016, Gary Webb <gwebb8686 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Maybe Narrator isn't the right word, how about interlocutor...?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Apr 6, 2016, at 6:32 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> The current thread has provided no examples of Slothrup narrating, as far as I can tell. Can you provide some text as example?
>>>
>>> David Morris
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>>> On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 5:28 PM, ish mailian <ishmailian at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> see current thread under this subject where examples are provided and
>>> the question of reliability is discussed.
>>>
>>> BtZ42, 21: Slothrop backstory in UK
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 4:45 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > Please show an example of Slothrup narrating. Then we can discuss the
>>> > reliablility of said narration. Otherwise, this is a worthless question.
>>> >
>>> > David Morris
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 3:36 PM, ish mailian <ishmailian at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Anyone care to explain?
>>> >> What do posters mean when thy say Slothrop is a reliable narrator?
>>> >>
>>> >> Hard to find anything we can rely on in this book, so if have a
>>> >> reliable narrator in Slothrop, if, we have something to hang our hats
>>> >> on. Right?
>>> >>
>>> >> Papa wasa rolling stone.....
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