(np) Creepiness and BtZ42

[Monte Davis]

Laughed, I'm guessing, because she doesn't see the point or urgency of his
desire to change his/their life ("how does a man... where dos he even
begin, at age 33"...?)

It's as if to say "Poor Pirate, my little style accessory: if you have to
ask why I don't expect more than this, you'll never understand."



On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 8:10 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:

> What readings of THIS do we have?
>
> P36.  "But that's just it [in italics]", she'd have laughed."
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 18, 2016, at 9:48 AM, Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:
>
> > There is  irony here too. Pirate sees the pornographic creepiness he
> himself will not relinquish, where we know that RM will later see the
> bigger picture and rebel. To me this is describing the seductive come-on of
> empire, of being on the inside, having access to secrets. RM thought he had
> been seduced and married to the war until J S. We are about to move into
> their world.
> >
> >
> >> On Apr 18, 2016, at 6:49 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> To lasso this back into our Group Read, isn't it kind of " creepy" the
> way Roger Mexico's enthusiasm for the spying films grows? Like " witnessing
> an addiction", like a "pornography customer's reflex"--cf Creepiness
> below--, Pynchon sez.....and Pirate sez it looks like shame.
> >>
> >> Pynchon shows a creepy " probably to do with the Americans" world of
> shameful spying run by Behaviorists and Pavlovians, those supposed
> scientists pinning us like butterflies.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPad
> >>
> >> On Apr 18, 2016, at 5:15 AM, Kai Frederik Lorentzen <
> lorentzen at hotmail.de> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> ... However, one-sample t-tests revealed that only four occupations
> were judged to be significantly higher than the neutral value of "3" on the
> creepiness rating scale: Clowns (...), Taxidermists (...), Sex Shop Owners
> (...), and Funeral Directors (...). Therefore, it appears that occupations
> associated with death (taxidermy and funeral directors) or reflective of a
> fascination with sex (sex shop owners) are perceived as creepy; clowns were
> the creepiest of all.  (...) Just for fun, we asked our participants to
> list two hobbies they considered as creepy. Easily, the most frequently
> mentioned creepy hobbies involved collecting things (listed by 341 of our
> participants). Collecting dolls, insects, reptiles, or body parts like
> teeth, bones, or fingernails was considered especially creepy. The second
> most frequently mentioned hobby (listed by 108 participants) involved some
> variation of "watching". (...) Everything that we found in this study is
> consistent with the notion that the perception of creepiness is a response
> to the ambiguity of threat. Males are more physically threatening to people
> of both sexes than are females (McAndrew 2009), and they were more likely
> to be perceived as creepy by males and females alike. (...) It might also
> have been enlightening to ask individuals to rate themselves on creepiness
> ... <
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Jünger and Nabokov were collecting insects,
> >>> Bowie - in the 1970s - his fingernails.
> >>>
> >>> But what about the book collectors like you and me?
> >>> All sane and decidedly non-creepy ...
> >>>
> >>>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Francis T. McAndrew and Sara S. Koehnke:
> >>>
> >>> (On the Nature of) CREEPINESS
> >>>
> >>> http://www.academia.edu/2465121/Creepiness
> >
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