NP. The "Artful" thread OR "Every morning, some new, crazy shit."

Thu Dec 1 09:11:32 CST 2016

I also read To the Lighthouse a few years ago.  I loved it.

David Morris

On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 9:07 AM, Keith Davis <kbob42 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Alright, it's next after M&D. Had it on the shelf for quite a while.
> Thanks, both...
>
> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 9:57 AM, Becky Lindroos <bekah0176 at sbcglobal.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Yes -  To the Lighthouse is a wonderment.  It’s one of those books which
>> can be read several times getting more out of it each time.  And it’s not
>> that long!  The story of a woman and her family just before and during WWI.
>>
>> A Room of One's Own is also good but it’s a long essay about the
>> importance of personal space in a woman author’s life - about a woman’s
>> need for some independence (if I remember correctly).
>>
>> Mrs Dalloway is also very good - some stream of consciousness - similar
>> in some ways to Ulysses which had been published only a few years prior and
>> Woolf had read but …
>>
>> The only other book I’ve read by Woolf is Night and Day which I didn’t
>> care for.  It’s  very, very slow with details piled on details because
>> Woolf was trying to get every inner nuance of her protagonist’s behavior -
>> similar in ways to the later works of Henry James, I think,  but with more
>> emphasis on the emotional or inner life.  Every thought or half-thought is
>> described so it takes her a whole chapter to answer the door.   Omg,  some
>> kind of realism to the max.
>>
>> Becky
>>
>> > On Dec 1, 2016, at 5:17 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Speaking of female novelists---which is a ridiculous segue very akin to
>> the crazy segue way Charles Portis
>> > sees Americans acting and talking in this absurd country for any logic,
>> one of Roth's key themes [see 1963 essay]  & a new reading discovery (this
>> is another
>> > faux Portis tic) --first time with odds for the recent Nobel, I
>> learned, despite a small near-perfect output and a writer recommended to me
>> years ago by a Plister which I finally acted on although I still do not
>> know why I was gifted with
>> > the recommendation because I could see no connection in the kind verbal
>> act, but I guess that is a Portis-
>> > like connection too---Virginia Woolf really had it together at her
>> deepest and widest level in To The Lighthouse, which
>> > in the above spirit I suggest all Plisters 'should' read but there are
>> no 'shoulds' really, the stream of fiction is
>> > so wide only Harold Bloom can speed swim through it.
>> >
>> > Anyway, to tie up this pretentious post over wake-up coffee--pretention
>> an ongoing theme
>> > which might not be circumvented by meta-preemptive awareness of it,
>> that meta that DFW so hated,
>> > I suggest that the movement of the words between commas and the number
>> of them in this post is another homage---this time
>> > to Ms. Woolf, suffering genius, although it is surely a Crying Wolf
>> homage.
>> >
>> > On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 11:04 PM, Smoke Teff <smoketeff at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Second Last Samurai about as I hard as I can second. She's brilliant,
>> book is great and singular, all Plisters should read.
>> >
>> > On Nov 29, 2016, at 6:02 PM, Robert Mahnke <rpmahnke at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> And now I've started reading Helen DeWitt's The Last Samurai, and I
>> love it so far.  I only read 40 pages last night, but I can't wait to get
>> home and get into again.  Here's a review from when it was initially
>> published in 2001, on her site:
>> >>
>> >> http://www.helendewitt.com/dewitt/review01.html
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 7:35 PM, Keith Davis <kbob42 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> My library of yet unread books just grew by three...thanks a lot, I
>> think!
>> >>
>> >> Www.innergroovemusic.com
>> >>
>> >> > On Nov 28, 2016, at 10:17 PM, Becky Lindroos <
>> bekah0176 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Not I -  but thank you for the recommendation -  it’s now on my wish
>> list.   :-)
>> >> >
>> >> > And to whomever mentioned The Quincunx by Charles Palliser I’ll
>> second (or third) it.
>> >> >
>> >> > Bekah/Becky
>> >> > back in California and on the list!   :-)
>> >> >
>> >> >> On Nov 28, 2016, at 6:39 PM, kelber at mindspring.com wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks for the recommendation.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I recently finished another book that someone recommended here -
>> can't remember who - Bekah?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> A Naked Singularity, by Sergio De La Pava. A brilliant
>> deconstruction of the criminal justice system, and well worth the read,
>> though I do think the book would have been stronger if he'd had an editor
>> to work with (he self-published). Some of the tangents he goes off on start
>> to cloy. Did the recommender say it was Pynchon-esque? There is a Whole
>> Sick Crew-like group of roommates, but it seems to be more inspired by
>> Junot Diaz, Cortazar, etc. - with a little Dostoyevsky thrown in, for good
>> measure.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Laura
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> >> From: Robert Mahnke
>> >> >> Sent: Nov 28, 2016 5:59 PM
>> >> >> To: P-list
>> >> >> Subject: Artful (NP)
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I've just read Ali Smith's Artful, and recommend it, fwiw.  It's
>> remarkable, and unlike anything else I can think of.
>> >> >> - Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l
>> >> >
>> >> > Becky
>> >> > https://beckylindroos.wordpress.com
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > -
>> >> > Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l
>> >>
>> >
>>
>> Becky
>> https://beckylindroos.wordpress.com
>>
>>
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