Re: NP - Fuck You and Your “Democrats Have to End Identity Politics to Win” Bullshit

[Mark Thibodeau]

Um... I think I was agreeing with you?

J.

On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 10:33 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
> Are you deaf to the point that all these dozens of anti identity politics
> critiques are FUCKING STUPID?  "Identity" criticism is ALL about offending
> the white poor minority because of inclusion politics.  It is that simple.
> They are afraid that minorities are getting more help than them.  Anti
> identity politics is all about misplaced resentment of others' advancement.
> It is the white hillbilly resenting the Cadillac queen.
>
> David Morris
>
> On Thursday, December 8, 2016, Mark Thibodeau <jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Holy crap, are you SERIOUS?!
>>
>> Swing a dead cat and you'll hit a dozen "hot takes" about how the
>> Democrats lost by indulging in "identity politics".
>>
>> If you're sincerely interested, Google is your friend.
>>
>> J.
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 7:47 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > That sure is an idiosyncratic take. Can you point  to a single instance
>> > of
>> > that in any medium?
>> >
>> > David Morris
>> >
>> > On Thursday, December 8, 2016, Chris v <traditionalgb at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> when some of these people say 'identity politics' they are referring to
>> >> how critics of hillary clinton's hawkish attitude towards palestine and
>> >> her
>> >> association with goldman sachs were commonly accused of being sexist.
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 5:01 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> https://www.balloon-juice.com/2016/12/08/fuck-you-and-your-democrats-have-to-end-identity-politics-to-win-bullshit/
>> >>>
>> >>> If I read one fucking more thinkpiece, blog post, semi-literate tweet,
>> >>> or
>> >>> facebook forward blaming whatever the fuck “identity politics” is for
>> >>> Democrats losing the election I am going to lose completely and
>> >>> totally lose
>> >>> my shit and climb a fucking bell tower. I don’t even know what people
>> >>> mean
>> >>> when they say identity politics anymore. So let me ask you:
>> >>>
>> >>> Is it identity politics when you cater to white supremacists, the
>> >>> Klan,
>> >>> and neo-nazis to win an election?
>> >>>
>> >>> Is it identity politics when you say white lives matter or blue lives
>> >>> matter?
>> >>>
>> >>> Is it identity politics when you cheer building a wall to keep out
>> >>> rapey
>> >>> Mexicans?
>> >>>
>> >>> [...]
>> >>>
>> >>> ***
>> >>>
>> >>> No. Of course not. What you mean when you say “identity politics” is
>> >>> you
>> >>> mean all those groups you want to systematically oppress try to stand
>> >>> up and
>> >>> defend themselves and it hurts your feelings because you can’t have
>> >>> your
>> >>> way. In politics, it’s called COALITION BUILDING.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >
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