NP - The Witch (movie)

kelber at mindspring.com kelber at mindspring.com
Sun Dec 18 22:18:20 CST 2016


Michael Moore's pre-election analysis is absolutely spot-on, post-election:

http://michaelmoore.com/trumpwillwin/

Point 5 is particularly relevant for people to consider. My daughter reports that a sub-set if her friends - millennials, by and large, marginally employed, drug-addled, with no future - voted for Trump for this very reason.

LK

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ish mailian <ishmailian at gmail.com> wrote:

>Krugman, like so many who think like liberals with a conscience missed
>something huge in the recent election and he still doesn't seem to
>realize how wrong he was about the working people who supported Trump
>and how the trade agreements with China and Mexico impacted wages.
>Krugman, who defends trade, and the trade agreements (WTO, Most
>Favored Trading Nation Status for China, for example )that stripped US
>workers of wealth and job security argues that the US  jobs and the
>benefits were lost to technology. This is false and those simple folk
>Krugman claims to care about know it, even though he is a professor of
>Economics,  has the Nobel in Economics and most of them don't have a
>degree in anything. China's gain was the  US loss, in wages, job
>security. Sure, the wealth got skewed more and more to the top 10%
>under US Capitalism while in China the poor were lifted out of
>poverty, so one could argue, as liberals often do, and did when the
>unfair trade advantage was extended to China, that the US needed to
>redistribute the wealth, educate, re-educate, invest in
>infrastructure, productivity, workers...to offset the unfair trade
>that raised the Chinese workers out of poverty and stripped US workers
>of the wages, and that, in the long run, a China without poverty would
>benefit not only China but the US, US workers, and the world. Not true
>of course, but this was the thinking and Krugman was a big cheerleader
>for it. Now he is reluctant to admit that he was wrong. The Liberals
>got it wrong. At least from the American worker's point of view they
>did. The US gave up a lot of manufacturing. It would shift to service
>and knowledge economy. The shift, from Clinton through Bush and to
>Obama, 24 years, failed. The Chinese took full advantage, and they
>manipulated the currency to boot. Workers know this. Will Trump change
>things?
>
>On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 10:09 AM, Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I look at the Times everyday and agree about the treatment of Hillary's
>> silly emails, which clearly shouldn't have amounted to a row of beans in
>> this crazy world. Krugman calls it false equivalency and says the mainstream
>> press in general was guilty. He recently wrote a scathing piece on the
>> subject.
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 17, 2016 at 7:09 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Paul!
>>>
>>> I like the NYT grammarian.  Otherwise I hate the NYT for endlessly
>>> persecuting Hillary's emails and not showcasing Trump's endless lies,
>>> race-baiting, Putin-loving anti-NATO crap. I HATE the NYT.
>>>
>>> Just saying..
>>> David Morris
>>>
>>> On Saturday, December 17, 2016, Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> No more than any other English teacher would--Hi David.
>>>>
>>>> p
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Dec 17, 2016 at 5:35 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> OK.  Is it no different than our English?  You quibble.  Do you have a
>>>>> point?
>>>>>
>>>>> David Morris
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, December 17, 2016, ish mailian <ishmailian at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Shakespeare's language is Modern English, not Old or Middle English.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 7:53 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> > http://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/the-witch-2016
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I'm only at the first third, but everything so far is layered in deep
>>>>>> > resonances.  The language is faithfully old English, but that's not
>>>>>> > the only
>>>>>> > reason it reminds me of Shakespeare.  The drama is smart and real.
>>>>>> > Cinematography is superb, as is the soundtrack.  In that regard this
>>>>>> > feels
>>>>>> > like Kubrick, but without the symmetry and clean edges.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > David Morris
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>>
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