CoL49 Emotionality

[kelber at mindspring.com]

I just re-watched Diary of a Mad Housewife (based on Kaufman's novel). I hadn't seen it since it came out in 1970 - very embarrassing to watch it in a movie theater with my parents! It's an unaccountably forgotten gem, but someone at least posted it on YouTube. Catch it while you can!

Laura

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ish mailian <ishmailian at gmail.com> wrote:

>Lots of "Neglected" books that P may have read or browsed circa 1965.
>Sue Kaufman is a good example, methinks.
>
>A link to the neglected books page:
>
>http://neglectedbooks.com/
>
>On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 6:36 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Steve points to:
>> "She wondered then if worrying affected his performance. Having once been
>> seventeen and ready to laugh at almost anything, she found herself overcome
>> by, call it a tenderness she'd never quite go to the back of lest she get
>> bogged. It kept her from asking him and more questions. Like all their
>> inabilities to communicate, this too had a virtuous motive."
>>
>>
>>
>> yes, markedly..sensitive? (Remember Oedipa thought she might be a
>> 'sensitive' as P adds his resonances.) Pynchon's feminism,
>> perhaps, as we talked of before on this List? One might write an essay on
>> the old-fashioned 19th century-like, shortened-Jamesian. psychological
>> movements of Oedipa's mind, right?, hidden amidst her overt quest. We get
>> this after she has been self-unwrapped with Metzger---too obviously a
>> hidebound California Young Repub woman now loosening up? She cries after
>> Metzger says, that  Pierce said "She wouldn't be easy?" Why did she cry?
>> This is adultery she commits, against the man she is going to think about
>> very soon in the way we see below ---has it happened before? but not like
>> this time?
>> Adultery was--is--usually a central act with the most far-reaching
>> consequences, esp for women maybe, especially then and times before
>> then---and esp in fiction!
>> Brian Moore's fine The Doctor's Wife of the 70s or so was, as Anthony
>> Burgess said,  a quietly revolutionary novel since it showed full bourgeois
>> Anna Karenina-like real love adultery leading to a new self, a completely
>> new emotional life and HAPPINESS beyond the wife's imagining. Madame Bovary,
>> she dead. Perhaps as emotionally liberating in its fictional way as Fear of
>> Flying was sexually liberating for many woman, all the good girls, on the
>> page but in the life beyond that page too.
>>
>> Discuss and connect.
>> Second post to come.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 11:24 AM, Steven Koteff <steviekoteff at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> In advance of the BtZ read, I am just starting a slow and hopefully deep,
>>> experiential reread of this book. Haven't read it in several years.
>>>
>>> The book is so much more emotionally complicated, and smart than I ever
>>> realized. I think as a reader accustomed to normaler fiction you have a hard
>>> time A) getting the emotion behind the uniqueness and occasional density of
>>> the prose, and B) processing a book that just doesn't spend its time working
>>> in scene/plot in conventional ways or at a conventional pace. Maybe you
>>> could call this a shortcoming of the book--GR and M&D, in my opinion,
>>> operate with much more immersive scenery.
>>>
>>> But still, this book is just really smart about human pain and loneliness.
>>> This is something TRP does not get enough credit for from
>>> non-Pynchontoligists.
>>>
>>> Here's Oedipa, contemplating sympathy for Mucho and his difficulty
>>> overcoming the fear of statutory rape prosecution with regards to his
>>> attraction to high schoolers (this is pp 32-3 of the HPMC paperback):
>>>
>>> "She wondered then if worrying affected his performance. Having once been
>>> seventeen and ready to laugh at almost anything, she found herself overcome
>>> by, call it a tenderness she'd never quite go to the back of lest she get
>>> bogged. It kept her from asking him and more questions. Like all their
>>> inabilities to communicate, this too had a virtuous motive."
>>>
>>> I mean I know he gets certain elements of relationship dynamics,
>>> especially sexual power maybe, very right. And that's on display here. But
>>> the other insights and complexities are not necessarily ones I was
>>> expecting. -
>>> Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?listpynchon-l
>>
>>
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