P's P's Please

[Mark Kohut]

And then there is the mothers and children scene in GR.

On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 5:48 AM, matthew cissell <mccissell at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hello Michel,
>
> Thanks for the addition. I might point out, though you know all too well,
> that the date of 1985 is just after he has met M. Jackson and dumped
> Candida; they've just put out Slow Learner and TP will give us VL in just a
> few years. No little one running around yet.
>
> Getting married is one thing, having a child is quite another. I reckon
> that the change in family situation brought about a reconcilation with his
> parents. (Brings to mind the adage: "Growing up is learning to forgive your
> parents for being who they are", to which I add that "Being grown up means
> you don't have to forgive your parents for being what they are. Although
> maybe that's more difficult if your father supported Nixon.)
>
>    Have a good weekend.
> ciao
> mc
>
> On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 11:24 AM, Michel <bulb at vheissu.net> wrote:
>
>> If I remember well there was a piece in French paper Libé that quoted or
>> his sister Judith or his mother Katherine Bennett as saying that "he wants
>> us to leave him alone, so we leave him alone", or some sorts. Was about the
>> best researched piece on Pynchon's life at the time.
>>
>> This piece:
>>
>> Fogel, Jean-François. "Les auteurs de nos 25 ans (Les compagnons de
>> Libération). Sur la piste de 'Pynch'." Libération [19 March 1998]: 26-28.
>> Biography originally published in Libération as L'écrivain invisible: la
>> piste Pynchon [11 October 1985]: 30-33.
>>
>> Michel.
>>
>>
>> On 2016-02-19 10:16, John Bailey wrote:
>>
>>> Have we even discussed that piece at length? I reread it this morning
>>> (thanks Tyler!) and it's a really extensive piece of research, maybe
>>> the most extensive on Pynchon's bio? And he seems to be very familiar
>>> with the writing itself, if not overly respectful of the desire for
>>> privacy.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 7:56 PM, matthew cissell <mccissell at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Tyler,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, I had forgetten about the Kachka piece. That must have been it,
>>>> but
>>>> I thought I had come across something that referred to his parents later
>>>> years and a reconciliation of sorts.
>>>>
>>>> (What is the Pyn community consensus on the piece? I know that Jules
>>>> Siegel's Playboy interview is sometimes called into question on grounds
>>>> of
>>>> motive (self-serving, revenge, etc.), but what about Boris' work?)
>>>>
>>>>    Ok, wait, you deserve big thanks my man. I went back to look at the
>>>> Kachka piece and not only does it have the line you mention, but it
>>>> also,
>>>> further on, includes that in the 1990's, "Pynchon told friends he was
>>>> seeing
>>>> a lot more of his parents" which following what we know about Pynchon's
>>>> politics and his parent's (father a Serious Republican and mother a
>>>> serious
>>>> catholic and likely anti-semite) allows us to infer that there was at
>>>> least
>>>> a rift of sorts that was then mended.
>>>>
>>>>   That's what I was after. I owe you a beer, or whatever.
>>>>
>>>> Very Appreciatively,
>>>> Matt Cissell
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 5:57 PM, Tyler Wilson <tbsqrd at hotmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Matthew —
>>>>>
>>>>> Though it isn't stated explicitly, that information can be gleaned
>>>>> from a
>>>>> couple passages of Boris Kachka's 2013 piece for Vulture:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.vulture.com/2013/08/thomas-pynchon-bleeding-edge.html
>>>>>
>>>>> " . . . he and his then-girlfriend, Mary Ann Tharaldsen, were driving
>>>>> through Big Sur when she complained of nausea. She wanted to stop at a
>>>>> bar
>>>>> and have a shot to settle her stomach. According to Tharaldsen, he
>>>>> exploded,
>>>>> telling her he would not tolerate midday drinking. When she asked why,
>>>>> he
>>>>> told her he’d seen his mother, after drinking,  accidentally puncture
>>>>> his
>>>>> father’s eye with a clothespin. It was the only time, says Tharaldsen,
>>>>> who
>>>>> lived with him, that he ever mentioned his family. “He was
>>>>> disconnected from
>>>>> them,” she says. “There seems to have been something not good there.” "
>>>>>
>>>>> "Pynchon and Jackson married in 1990 and had a son—first name Jackson—a
>>>>> year later. Pynchon told friends he was seeing a lot more of his
>>>>> parents. .
>>>>> . . "
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> --
>>>>> T
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 18, 2016, at 3:59 AM, matthew cissell <mccissell at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear P-listers,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a problem and that is that I could swear that I read somewhere
>>>>> that
>>>>> Pynchon had been a bit estranged from his folks but that he eventually
>>>>> made
>>>>> peace with them. Does that sound familiar to anyone? Where did that
>>>>> come
>>>>> from? I can't find the source now. Was it from Phyllis Gebauer?
>>>>>
>>>>> Beseechingly,
>>>>> mc otis
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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