NP: David Lynch Reading

[John Bailey]

On a related/opposite note, I've recently been thinking about
directors who were once considered hotshot auteurs but whose later
output had people reconsidering their original talent. I know some
people put Malick in that camp but I've never really followed his
stuff, but in my case I used to love Wim Wenders and Wong Kar-Wai...
looking back this was on the basis of a handful of films each, and
since then they've made some stinkers. I suspect if I revisited these
originals I might not enjoy them simply because the later stuff failed
to live up to the promise.



On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 8:14 PM, Jemmy Bloocher <jbloocher at gmail.com> wrote:
> Satyajit Ray? I'm pondering female directors, but Ray immediately popped
> into my head.
>
> On 3 Jan 2016 05:42, "rich" <richard.romeo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> have u seen the Curious George/Herzog spoof? priceless
>>
>> women directors: Lina Wertmuller's gotta be on that list
>>
>> rich
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 2, 2016 at 10:33 PM, John Bailey <sundayjb at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Geez, Herzog will keep you busy. But Aguirre and Fitzcarraldo,
>>> absolutely unforgettable.
>>>
>>> Will you be viewing each oeuvre chronologically?
>>>
>>> Women I can think of that might make it onto a similar list would be
>>> Claire Denis, Kathryn Bigelow (big contrast across her career), Jane
>>> Campion, Chantal Akerman (RIP).
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 2:03 PM, Douglas Holm <dkholm at mac.com> wrote:
>>> > What a great list!!!
>>> >
>>> > I forgot Herzog, though I don't like him all that much, but he is
>>> > significant as a genre bender.
>>> >
>>> > Corns, of course.
>>> >
>>> > Mallick is interesting but more for his influence (Revenant) than his
>>> > achievement ... Is he a Christian apologist? I can't tell, but it's an
>>> > interesting discussion.
>>> >
>>> > I love Linklater ... Almost put him on the list, but didn't think of
>>> > him
>>> > until after "send " .... Great subject for further research.
>>> >
>>> > I've been wanting to get into Barhrani since Ebert went out on a limb
>>> > for
>>> > him after his first film a decade ago.
>>> >
>>> > Great list!!!
>>> >
>>> > On Jan 2, 2016, at 6:49 PM, Steven Koteff <steviekoteff at gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Thanks so much for all the input so far. Definitely going to buy the
>>> > Lynch
>>> > on Lynch and will probably get the Lim book, too.
>>> >
>>> > We made the list on New Year's Eve, and it took several hours to do,
>>> > and was
>>> > great fun. Lots of arguments, diplomatic choices, etc. Like our own
>>> > little
>>> > climate talks.
>>> >
>>> > We ended up making choices that were some balance between directors we
>>> > were
>>> > interested in seeing for ourselves, directors we wanted the other
>>> > person to
>>> > see, and directors that felt uniquely important (or at least unique). I
>>> > consider myself almost shockingly overschooled in post-1980 American
>>> > cinema
>>> > and really underschooled in pre-1980 American cinema plus most
>>> > non-American
>>> > stuff. There's not quite as much stuff on there that will fill those
>>> > gaps as
>>> > I'd like, which we are addressing in two ways:
>>> >
>>> > One is that we are acknowledging we will just have to leave a few until
>>> > 2017.
>>> > Two is that we have an addendum list of directors with one or several
>>> > movies
>>> > we consider important to see, but who we are not totally committing to
>>> > this
>>> > year. E.g. The Seventh Seal is on the list, but Bergman's entire ouevre
>>> > is
>>> > not (maybe in 2017).
>>> >
>>> > Here's the list of we ended up with:
>>> > Lynch
>>> > Kubrick
>>> > Herzog
>>> > Todd Solondz
>>> > Coen Bros.
>>> > John Waters
>>> > Terrence Malick
>>> > Linklater
>>> > Ramin Bahrani
>>> > Woody Allen
>>> >
>>> > Some of the choices are matters of convenience. Bahrani is young and
>>> > unique,
>>> > worth seeing in his own right (as I insisted) but also only has a few
>>> > movies
>>> > out, which counterbalances Allen/Herzog nicely.
>>> >
>>> > Longlist included, off the top of my head: Gilliam, Ray, Bergman,
>>> > Fellini,
>>> > Welles, Spike Lee, Aronofsky, buncha others.
>>> >
>>> > Definitely lots of glaring omissions. It obviously skews contemporary,
>>> > American, white. No women on the list, which is really kind of
>>> > unforgivable.
>>> > We had Sofia Coppola and a few others on the long list. If anybody has
>>> > any
>>> > recommendations to that end I'd be very interested.
>>> >
>>> > On Sat, Jan 2, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Douglas Holm <dkholm at mac.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> All the Mississippi interview books and the Faber and Faber books are
>>> >> a
>>> >> good mix of biography and aesthetics.
>>> >>
>>> >> Suggested directors for your project could include:
>>> >>
>>> >> Fincher
>>> >> Hitchcock
>>> >> Sophia Coppola
>>> >> Wes and PT Anderson
>>> >> Tarantino (lots of books on him ... I did two of them)
>>> >> Jill Sprecher
>>> >> Ophuls
>>> >> Nick Ray
>>> >> Sam Fuller
>>> >> Renoir
>>> >> Truffaut
>>> >> Melville
>>> >> Kurosawa
>>> >> Mizoguchi
>>> >> Tarkovsky
>>> >> Bergman
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> > On Jan 2, 2016, at 4:54 PM, Douglas Holm <dkholm at mac.com> wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > There's a new book by Dennis Lim, late of the Village Voice.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > http://www.amazon.com/David-Lynch-Another-Place-Icons/dp/0544343751
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> On Jan 2, 2016, at 4:41 PM, Steven Koteff <steviekoteff at gmail.com>
>>> >> >> wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> A month or two ago I asked if anybody could recommend a Kubrick bio
>>> >> >> and
>>> >> >> you guys were all helpful (went with the Lobrutto, Mark T's rec).
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> I'm no wondering if anybody has a particular book (or books) on
>>> >> >> Lynch
>>> >> >> to recommend. Biography is desired. If the writer is insightful
>>> >> >> about
>>> >> >> Lynch's work that'd be a plus but I guess I'm a bit more interested
>>> >> >> in Lynch
>>> >> >> the guy, as person and artist. Want insight into what made the guy
>>> >> >> make the
>>> >> >> work.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> My girlfriend and I made a list of ten directors whose work we want
>>> >> >> to
>>> >> >> see all of, in order, before 2017. We're starting with Lynch.
>>> >> >> Ideally I'd
>>> >> >> like to read up on each director while we are watching his/her
>>> >> >> stuff so I
>>> >> >> will be checking back in.
>>> >> >>
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