NP: David Lynch Reading

Sun Jan 3 04:13:04 CST 2016

How 'bout one great documentarian? Reality bites.

On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 4:40 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
> Misc. Next volume of Callow's Welles is coming out this year.
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> Women: consider Agnes Varda. And, yes, Jane Campion. Ida Lupino's
> couple--three films?
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> So, Allen is your weak choice to contrast? Like having to have
> informed opinions about Hitchcock?
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> No Godard? THE one I would commit to were I to commit.
> Along with Ray,  and/or Ozu. And Kurosawa . And, yes, Linklater. And
> Kiarostrami. And Lee.
>  All white guys and girls---
> talking about myself here---should see more Lee. imho.
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> How about placing a guy like Ken Loach in context? How much art, how
> much cause and sociology?
> Remember AMERICA unfolds w studio genre creations, if America seen is
> a subgoal.(which it isn't, i just reread)
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> No Truffaut? And I'd watch Chabrol over Melville. But that's me.
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> In the circles, I have circled, I have needed my strong opinions about
> Hitchcock. Perhaps
> We all do.
> Your list is, of course, a high-minded one. Wilsonian ( per recent
> post). Kind I like
> But not most folk...but this is the plist.
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> Watch some bad movies too. Just sayin'.
> Then there are the Royal Shakespeare Company productions of
> Shakespeare. (joke, sorta) which I may do.
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> Do a book--blog first? Our Year of Watching Movies. (or Film, first
> discussion) New trend in books.
> and I'm not prescribing with anything above, just projecting my own
> self, mostly.
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> Except I am saying if you are anywhere near NYC's Film Forum you MUST
> SEE Chimes at Midnight, one of the greatest
> movies ever made, in ownership dispute limbo for a long time and if it
> now plays elsewhere, just go.
> Still my fave Shakespeare film and Welles.
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> And, more topically, see The Big Short and Spotlight while they are
> "in the conversation", as well as Lee.
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> Back to reading I go. Up against movies, reading's through unless we
> keep it alive.
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> my answer re Malick. No, he answers Christian apologetics in ways
> Heidegger did, whom he studied or wrote a
> diss on or whatever...
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> Some of your directors offer a nice chance to explore the 'ideas' vs.
> 'life' in art question.
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>> On Jan 2, 2016, at 10:33 PM, John Bailey <sundayjb at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Geez, Herzog will keep you busy. But Aguirre and Fitzcarraldo,
>> absolutely unforgettable.
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>> Will you be viewing each oeuvre chronologically?
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>> Women I can think of that might make it onto a similar list would be
>> Claire Denis, Kathryn Bigelow (big contrast across her career), Jane
>> Campion, Chantal Akerman (RIP).
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>>> On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 2:03 PM, Douglas Holm <dkholm at mac.com> wrote:
>>> What a great list!!!
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>>> I forgot Herzog, though I don't like him all that much, but he is
>>> significant as a genre bender.
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>>> Corns, of course.
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>>> Mallick is interesting but more for his influence (Revenant) than his
>>> achievement ... Is he a Christian apologist? I can't tell, but it's an
>>> interesting discussion.
>>>
>>> I love Linklater ... Almost put him on the list, but didn't think of him
>>> until after "send " .... Great subject for further research.
>>>
>>> I've been wanting to get into Barhrani since Ebert went out on a limb for
>>> him after his first film a decade ago.
>>>
>>> Great list!!!
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>>> On Jan 2, 2016, at 6:49 PM, Steven Koteff <steviekoteff at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> Thanks so much for all the input so far. Definitely going to buy the Lynch
>>> on Lynch and will probably get the Lim book, too.
>>>
>>> We made the list on New Year's Eve, and it took several hours to do, and was
>>> great fun. Lots of arguments, diplomatic choices, etc. Like our own little
>>> climate talks.
>>>
>>> We ended up making choices that were some balance between directors we were
>>> interested in seeing for ourselves, directors we wanted the other person to
>>> see, and directors that felt uniquely important (or at least unique). I
>>> consider myself almost shockingly overschooled in post-1980 American cinema
>>> and really underschooled in pre-1980 American cinema plus most non-American
>>> stuff. There's not quite as much stuff on there that will fill those gaps as
>>> I'd like, which we are addressing in two ways:
>>>
>>> One is that we are acknowledging we will just have to leave a few until
>>> 2017.
>>> Two is that we have an addendum list of directors with one or several movies
>>> we consider important to see, but who we are not totally committing to this
>>> year. E.g. The Seventh Seal is on the list, but Bergman's entire ouevre is
>>> not (maybe in 2017).
>>>
>>> Here's the list of we ended up with:
>>> Lynch
>>> Kubrick
>>> Herzog
>>> Todd Solondz
>>> Coen Bros.
>>> John Waters
>>> Terrence Malick
>>> Linklater
>>> Ramin Bahrani
>>> Woody Allen
>>>
>>> Some of the choices are matters of convenience. Bahrani is young and unique,
>>> worth seeing in his own right (as I insisted) but also only has a few movies
>>> out, which counterbalances Allen/Herzog nicely.
>>>
>>> Longlist included, off the top of my head: Gilliam, Ray, Bergman, Fellini,
>>> Welles, Spike Lee, Aronofsky, buncha others.
>>>
>>> Definitely lots of glaring omissions. It obviously skews contemporary,
>>> American, white. No women on the list, which is really kind of unforgivable.
>>> We had Sofia Coppola and a few others on the long list. If anybody has any
>>> recommendations to that end I'd be very interested.
>>>
>>>> On Sat, Jan 2, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Douglas Holm <dkholm at mac.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> All the Mississippi interview books and the Faber and Faber books are a
>>>> good mix of biography and aesthetics.
>>>>
>>>> Suggested directors for your project could include:
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>>>> Fincher
>>>> Hitchcock
>>>> Sophia Coppola
>>>> Wes and PT Anderson
>>>> Tarantino (lots of books on him ... I did two of them)
>>>> Jill Sprecher
>>>> Ophuls
>>>> Nick Ray
>>>> Sam Fuller
>>>> Renoir
>>>> Truffaut
>>>> Melville
>>>> Kurosawa
>>>> Mizoguchi
>>>> Tarkovsky
>>>> Bergman
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>>>>> On Jan 2, 2016, at 4:54 PM, Douglas Holm <dkholm at mac.com> wrote:
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>>>>> There's a new book by Dennis Lim, late of the Village Voice.
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>>>>> http://www.amazon.com/David-Lynch-Another-Place-Icons/dp/0544343751
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>>>>>> On Jan 2, 2016, at 4:41 PM, Steven Koteff <steviekoteff at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
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>>>>>> A month or two ago I asked if anybody could recommend a Kubrick bio and
>>>>>> you guys were all helpful (went with the Lobrutto, Mark T's rec).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm no wondering if anybody has a particular book (or books) on Lynch
>>>>>> to recommend. Biography is desired. If the writer is insightful about
>>>>>> Lynch's work that'd be a plus but I guess I'm a bit more interested in Lynch
>>>>>> the guy, as person and artist. Want insight into what made the guy make the
>>>>>> work.
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>>>>>> My girlfriend and I made a list of ten directors whose work we want to
>>>>>> see all of, in order, before 2017. We're starting with Lynch. Ideally I'd
>>>>>> like to read up on each director while we are watching his/her stuff so I
>>>>>> will be checking back in.
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>>>>>> Thanks in advance. -
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