NP: David Lynch Reading

Sun Jan 3 09:15:43 CST 2016

Wong's last two recent films are his biggest stinkers. Of his best work I'd
single out In The Mood For Love as particularly strong.

On Sunday, January 3, 2016, Jemmy Bloocher <jbloocher at gmail.com> wrote:

> To go with Allen, Whit Stillman?
>
> I also loved Wim Wenders circa Paris, Texas. I've only seen Wong's
> Chungking Express (loved it) so unsure of his stinkers (unless that is one
> and I'm way off-base).
> On 3 Jan 2016 10:14, "Mark Kohut" <mark.kohut at gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','mark.kohut at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
>> How 'bout one great documentarian? Reality bites.
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 4:40 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','mark.kohut at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>> > Misc. Next volume of Callow's Welles is coming out this year.
>> >
>> > Women: consider Agnes Varda. And, yes, Jane Campion. Ida Lupino's
>> > couple--three films?
>> >
>> > So, Allen is your weak choice to contrast? Like having to have
>> > informed opinions about Hitchcock?
>> >
>> > No Godard? THE one I would commit to were I to commit.
>> > Along with Ray,  and/or Ozu. And Kurosawa . And, yes, Linklater. And
>> > Kiarostrami. And Lee.
>> >  All white guys and girls---
>> > talking about myself here---should see more Lee. imho.
>> >
>> > How about placing a guy like Ken Loach in context? How much art, how
>> > much cause and sociology?
>> > Remember AMERICA unfolds w studio genre creations, if America seen is
>> > a subgoal.(which it isn't, i just reread)
>> >
>> > No Truffaut? And I'd watch Chabrol over Melville. But that's me.
>> >
>> > In the circles, I have circled, I have needed my strong opinions about
>> > Hitchcock. Perhaps
>> > We all do.
>> > Your list is, of course, a high-minded one. Wilsonian ( per recent
>> > post). Kind I like
>> > But not most folk...but this is the plist.
>> >
>> > Watch some bad movies too. Just sayin'.
>> > Then there are the Royal Shakespeare Company productions of
>> > Shakespeare. (joke, sorta) which I may do.
>> >
>> > Do a book--blog first? Our Year of Watching Movies. (or Film, first
>> > discussion) New trend in books.
>> > and I'm not prescribing with anything above, just projecting my own
>> > self, mostly.
>> >
>> > Except I am saying if you are anywhere near NYC's Film Forum you MUST
>> > SEE Chimes at Midnight, one of the greatest
>> > movies ever made, in ownership dispute limbo for a long time and if it
>> > now plays elsewhere, just go.
>> > Still my fave Shakespeare film and Welles.
>> >
>> > And, more topically, see The Big Short and Spotlight while they are
>> > "in the conversation", as well as Lee.
>> >
>> > Back to reading I go. Up against movies, reading's through unless we
>> > keep it alive.
>> >
>> > my answer re Malick. No, he answers Christian apologetics in ways
>> > Heidegger did, whom he studied or wrote a
>> > diss on or whatever...
>> >
>> > Some of your directors offer a nice chance to explore the 'ideas' vs.
>> > 'life' in art question.
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>> > Sent from my iPadudio
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>> >> On Jan 2, 2016, at 10:33 PM, John Bailey <sundayjb at gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','sundayjb at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Geez, Herzog will keep you busy. But Aguirre and Fitzcarraldo,
>> >> absolutely unforgettable.
>> >>
>> >> Will you be viewing each oeuvre chronologically?
>> >>
>> >> Women I can think of that might make it onto a similar list would be
>> >> Claire Denis, Kathryn Bigelow (big contrast across her career), Jane
>> >> Campion, Chantal Akerman (RIP).
>> >>
>> >>> On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 2:03 PM, Douglas Holm <dkholm at mac.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','dkholm at mac.com');>> wrote:
>> >>> What a great list!!!
>> >>>
>> >>> I forgot Herzog, though I don't like him all that much, but he is
>> >>> significant as a genre bender.
>> >>>
>> >>> Corns, of course.
>> >>>
>> >>> Mallick is interesting but more for his influence (Revenant) than his
>> >>> achievement ... Is he a Christian apologist? I can't tell, but it's an
>> >>> interesting discussion.
>> >>>
>> >>> I love Linklater ... Almost put him on the list, but didn't think of
>> him
>> >>> until after "send " .... Great subject for further research.
>> >>>
>> >>> I've been wanting to get into Barhrani since Ebert went out on a limb
>> for
>> >>> him after his first film a decade ago.
>> >>>
>> >>> Great list!!!
>> >>>
>> >>> On Jan 2, 2016, at 6:49 PM, Steven Koteff <steviekoteff at gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','steviekoteff at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks so much for all the input so far. Definitely going to buy the
>> Lynch
>> >>> on Lynch and will probably get the Lim book, too.
>> >>>
>> >>> We made the list on New Year's Eve, and it took several hours to do,
>> and was
>> >>> great fun. Lots of arguments, diplomatic choices, etc. Like our own
>> little
>> >>> climate talks.
>> >>>
>> >>> We ended up making choices that were some balance between directors
>> we were
>> >>> interested in seeing for ourselves, directors we wanted the other
>> person to
>> >>> see, and directors that felt uniquely important (or at least unique).
>> I
>> >>> consider myself almost shockingly overschooled in post-1980 American
>> cinema
>> >>> and really underschooled in pre-1980 American cinema plus most
>> non-American
>> >>> stuff. There's not quite as much stuff on there that will fill those
>> gaps as
>> >>> I'd like, which we are addressing in two ways:
>> >>>
>> >>> One is that we are acknowledging we will just have to leave a few
>> until
>> >>> 2017.
>> >>> Two is that we have an addendum list of directors with one or several
>> movies
>> >>> we consider important to see, but who we are not totally committing
>> to this
>> >>> year. E.g. The Seventh Seal is on the list, but Bergman's entire
>> ouevre is
>> >>> not (maybe in 2017).
>> >>>
>> >>> Here's the list of we ended up with:
>> >>> Lynch
>> >>> Kubrick
>> >>> Herzog
>> >>> Todd Solondz
>> >>> Coen Bros.
>> >>> John Waters
>> >>> Terrence Malick
>> >>> Linklater
>> >>> Ramin Bahrani
>> >>> Woody Allen
>> >>>
>> >>> Some of the choices are matters of convenience. Bahrani is young and
>> unique,
>> >>> worth seeing in his own right (as I insisted) but also only has a few
>> movies
>> >>> out, which counterbalances Allen/Herzog nicely.
>> >>>
>> >>> Longlist included, off the top of my head: Gilliam, Ray, Bergman,
>> Fellini,
>> >>> Welles, Spike Lee, Aronofsky, buncha others.
>> >>>
>> >>> Definitely lots of glaring omissions. It obviously skews contemporary,
>> >>> American, white. No women on the list, which is really kind of
>> unforgivable.
>> >>> We had Sofia Coppola and a few others on the long list. If anybody
>> has any
>> >>> recommendations to that end I'd be very interested.
>> >>>
>> >>>> On Sat, Jan 2, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Douglas Holm <dkholm at mac.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','dkholm at mac.com');>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> All the Mississippi interview books and the Faber and Faber books
>> are a
>> >>>> good mix of biography and aesthetics.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Suggested directors for your project could include:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Fincher
>> >>>> Hitchcock
>> >>>> Sophia Coppola
>> >>>> Wes and PT Anderson
>> >>>> Tarantino (lots of books on him ... I did two of them)
>> >>>> Jill Sprecher
>> >>>> Ophuls
>> >>>> Nick Ray
>> >>>> Sam Fuller
>> >>>> Renoir
>> >>>> Truffaut
>> >>>> Melville
>> >>>> Kurosawa
>> >>>> Mizoguchi
>> >>>> Tarkovsky
>> >>>> Bergman
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> On Jan 2, 2016, at 4:54 PM, Douglas Holm <dkholm at mac.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','dkholm at mac.com');>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
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>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> There's a new book by Dennis Lim, late of the Village Voice.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> http://www.amazon.com/David-Lynch-Another-Place-Icons/dp/0544343751
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>> >>>>>> On Jan 2, 2016, at 4:41 PM, Steven Koteff <steviekoteff at gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','steviekoteff at gmail.com');>>
>> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> A month or two ago I asked if anybody could recommend a Kubrick
>> bio and
>> >>>>>> you guys were all helpful (went with the Lobrutto, Mark T's rec).
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> I'm no wondering if anybody has a particular book (or books) on
>> Lynch
>> >>>>>> to recommend. Biography is desired. If the writer is insightful
>> about
>> >>>>>> Lynch's work that'd be a plus but I guess I'm a bit more
>> interested in Lynch
>> >>>>>> the guy, as person and artist. Want insight into what made the guy
>> make the
>> >>>>>> work.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> My girlfriend and I made a list of ten directors whose work we
>> want to
>> >>>>>> see all of, in order, before 2017. We're starting with Lynch.
>> Ideally I'd
>> >>>>>> like to read up on each director while we are watching his/her
>> stuff so I
>> >>>>>> will be checking back in.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Thanks in advance. -
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