P in Uni syllabi (not P on)

ish mailian ishmailian at gmail.com
Sun Jan 3 15:25:54 CST 2016


He might. why not? Several others at Harvard do and have.

To answer the question about syllabuses, P is on a syllabus at all of the
top programs in the US. What are the top programs? Well, that depends, but
if you look at tier one schools, say the top 25 programs in English, you
will find P on a syllabus.

I've searched dissertations and syllabuses and P is all over them and has
been for decades.

On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 10:06 AM, Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at gmail.com> wrote:

> Really too soon to have much of an idea. R and P aren't even dead yet. And
> don't you have to be rediscovered at least once to become an immortal?
>
> If P is in the syllabus at Harvard, will James Wood teach him?
>
> On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 7:11 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Too ambitious for me to help with.
>> So, I'll just bloviate.
>> A; Yes, P will grow while Barth fades. Where's Delillo? Wallace? Others?
>> I do remember how Kesey's SOMETIMES A GREAT NOTION was THE Kesey
>> getting more bought at and since his death.
>> That one might last (in a footnote way)
>> Roth will be the Hawthorne to P's Melville of our time, to bloviate
>> contentiously.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 6:53 AM, matthew cissell <mccissell at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Happy festive days passed to you all - Hail Sol Invictus!
>> >
>> > Does anyone know of a source (webpage, whateva) for cross referencing
>> > University syllabi? I've poked around, but, ya'know, needle, haystack -
>> to
>> > the nth. I have come across numerous individual examples: not what I'm
>> > lookin for.
>> >
>> > Some time back someone posted that TP's works were listed in all tier 4
>> (if
>> > I recall correctly) universities, which made me think it didn't refer
>> to the
>> > US uni system.
>> >
>> > It would be interesting to see what works by Pynchon are taught and with
>> > what frequency, and also to compare that with other writers. For
>> example, I
>> > think Pynchon would come out above Kesey, but how would he fare against
>> Roth
>> > or Barth? And how would that look if we studied syllabi from the UK? Or
>> > Germany?
>> >
>> > I know this isn't exactly what we've seen people discussing at the last
>> few
>> > Pynchon conferences (as far as digital humanities goes), but it does
>> seem
>> > like something that is achievable - please forgive my tech naivete/
>> > ignorance - and relevant to the study of Mr. Pynchon's work. After all,
>> is
>> > not the inclusion of an author in syllabi a mark of an author's
>> importance
>> > in a society? Most universities require reading Shakespeare for an
>> English
>> > studies degree, far less require reading Marloweor Ben Johnson, unless
>> one
>> > is pursuing specialization in Elizabethan literature. Telemann was
>> bigger
>> > than Bach back in their day and Lope de Vega was feted more than poor
>> > Cervantes, but history often grants victory over time.
>> >
>> > Our Absent author's lack of visibility (a thing that has undergone some
>> > change) kept him so low profile for such a long time that he simply
>> didn't
>> > blip very much on the cultural rader; both Roth and Barth, though
>> nothing
>> > like Mailor the media hog, were far more a part of the public space.
>> Are we
>> > seeing that shift the other way? Might we hazard the speculation that
>> in 20
>> > - 30 years time (or more) the works of Barth and Roth will be reduced
>> to one
>> > or two works in a survey course, as examples of the howling of white
>> men,
>> > and Pynchon in a position homologous to that of Bach or Cervantes?
>> >
>> > So, any way to crunch and parse those Syllabi?
>> >
>> > ciao
>> > mc otis
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