Cologne sex attacks: women made to "run gauntlet"

[Johnny Marr]

I suppose it may be no different to a sudden or a gradual religious
conversion, just in another direction.

I don't think the attacks prove Islam is a uniquely unelightened or
mysoginistic religion. I'd rather they removed all religious priveliges in
one fell swoop (believe what you want in peaceful privacy, but don't expect
religious institutions to receive state subsidies, mitigatory law making or
tax exemptions on the grounds of being a force for social good or a deeply
held community belief).

On Friday, January 8, 2016, Danny Weltman <danny.weltman at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm also curious as to what it means for one's "patience" with Islam to
> "come to an end." What exactly does it mean to be patient with Islam, and
> how does one's life change when one is no longer patient with Islam?
>
> Danny
>
> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 11:28 AM, Robert Mahnke <rpmahnke at gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rpmahnke at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
>> Hi Kai, I have been trying to pay attention to this story, partly because
>> I change trains in Koln now and then and so it's easier for me to imagine
>> the scene.
>>
>> I wonder why you say your patience with Islam has come to an end, for a
>> few reasons.  One is that the English-language coverage I've seen has had
>> only scanty information about who the perpetrators might have been.  Are
>> they not relating facts that have been reported in German-language media?
>> But even where English-language sources have interviewed witnesses/victims,
>> I haven't seen much to suggest that the perpetrators were from any
>> particular ethnic group or religion.  I've seen suggestions that there were
>> people present of Arab or North African appearance, but that's been true of
>> that area when I've passed through.  And I don't get tie you see with
>> Islam.  Am pretty sure Islam frowns on what happened as much as
>> Christianity or Judaism would.
>>
>> So, curious about what I'm missing.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 1:25 AM, Kai Frederik Lorentzen <
>> lorentzen at hotmail.de
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','lorentzen at hotmail.de');>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/cologne-sex-attacks-women-made-to-run-gauntlet/news-story/c8a374824b163738853eb98daba9d2e6
>>>
>>> Similar things happened that night in Hamburg, Stuttgart, Bielefeld and
>>> other cities.
>>>
>>> My patience with Islam has come to an end.
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l
>>>
>>
>>
>
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