EXTRA! EXTRA! Get Your Group Read Here! Single up all lines NOW.
Mark Kohut
mark.kohut at gmail.com
Sat Jan 9 19:39:44 CST 2016
Easily.
Want to fold in, parse, discuss, " decide", disagree with and " come down on the side of" --or not---what 43 years of research and writing have given us, it should take take much longer.
Page a day, like Zak Smith's book, is @two years.
Famous Proust reading Group is a year long for first-time readers. There is a second one always going on, 2-4 years long, if you have already read In Search of Lost Time at least once.
Sent from my iPad
> On Jan 9, 2016, at 7:09 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Here's my take:
>
> A serious deep-read of GR needs to be done very slowly. GR is a big book, and the GRGR pace required a commitment of more than a year. Also, the flame wars of yore were harsh. Who knows if that was good or bad for attrition.
>
> David Morris
>
>> On Saturday, January 9, 2016, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>> People disappear like Slothrop does. .......
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>> On Jan 9, 2016, at 6:44 PM, Robert Mahnke <rpmahnke at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> When group reads here don't work well, why is it? Do they go too fast?
>>>
>>>> On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 1:16 PM, Steven Koteff <steviekoteff at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Mark I'm not sure if you, when you say, "IF, I said IF, we finish[...]" you are talking about reading/finishing the whole book. As of right now I, for one, am up for a comfortably paced group (re)read of the whole book, if anyone else is. I actually started rereading last month, going deliberately slowly, trying to limit myself to just a few pages at a time, but really, really digest every word of it. Would love to restart that in the company of everybody else here.
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 3:09 PM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Right now it's called BEFORE THE ZERO. IF, I said IF, we finish
>>>>> it will be titled AFTER Beyond the Zero.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 3:50 PM, Perry Noid <coolwithdoc at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> > I'm guessing "Gravity's Rainbow Group Read." What should be the name of this
>>>>> > new one?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 4:03 PM, John Bailey <sundayjb at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> The GRGR read was legendary, Paul. It was happening when I found
>>>>> >> waste.org in 1997 - one of the first websites I ever visited. I recall
>>>>> >> being confused.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 10:07 AM, Jemmy Bloocher <jbloocher at gmail.com>
>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>> >> > And so my 2016 reread looks to be starting with GR. Huzzah. I too look
>>>>> >> > forward to your analysis Mark.
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > OT Weren't we supposed to be doing Blood Meridian back in 2011? I moved
>>>>> >> > house and lost Internet access for an age and my email was suspended.
>>>>> >> > Did
>>>>> >> > that happen, did I miss it?
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > On 8 Jan 2016 22:21, <kelber at mindspring.com> wrote:
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> I think we're all hoping for, counting on, looking forward to your
>>>>> >> >> over-preparation, Mark! Gloomy, blustery March (or maybe arid or
>>>>> >> >> tropical
>>>>> >> >> March, due to climate change?) just got brighter.
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> Laura
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> >> >> >From: Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>
>>>>> >> >> >Sent: Jan 8, 2016 3:56 PM
>>>>> >> >> >To: "kelber at mindspring.com" <kelber at mindspring.com>
>>>>> >> >> >Cc: pynchon -l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>>>>> >> >> >Subject: Re: EXTRA! EXTRA! Get Your Group Read Here! Single up all
>>>>> >> >> > lines
>>>>> >> >> > NOW.
>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> >Laura----
>>>>> >> >> >BUT WHAT WILL I DO UNTIL THEN???
>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> >Of course it can and will be postponed starting NOW. It has happened
>>>>> >> >> > before
>>>>> >> >> >but never quite like this time with lotsa promises to take part, w
>>>>> >> >> >short bits and
>>>>> >> >> >no presumption of lotsa prep. I hope. (Hey, I would schedule it for
>>>>> >> >> > 2020 if
>>>>> >> >> >we would get a quorum that lasts.) I was just gonna start reading it
>>>>> >> >> > again and
>>>>> >> >> >start posting whatever, so now I'll hold my posts behind and post on
>>>>> >> >> > another
>>>>> >> >> >book or three.
>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> >So, first week of March? Ides of March might be propitious.
>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> >I know what I will probably do in the meantime. Overprepare so I can
>>>>> >> >> > drive
>>>>> >> >> >everyone away when we start.
>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> >And, since I wanted a cold jump start, I threw myself in first. BUT, I
>>>>> >> >> > will
>>>>> >> >> >let that honor go to you, or whoever else wants to go first, if you
>>>>> >> >> > don't.
>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> >ALL---don't let the move build up static mental energy and fears and
>>>>> >> >> > doubts
>>>>> >> >> >and whatevers so that real interest is gone by March.
>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> >Until We Meet Again,
>>>>> >> >> >Mark
>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> >On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 11:09 AM, kelber at mindspring.com
>>>>> >> >> ><kelber at mindspring.com> wrote:
>>>>> >> >> >> Mark, I'd love to do a Beyond the Zero read, but, since no one's
>>>>> >> >> >> signed
>>>>> >> >> >> up
>>>>> >> >> >> yet, can I talk you into postponing it until, say, March? I like
>>>>> >> >> >> your
>>>>> >> >> >> suggested breakdown.
>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> >> LK
>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> >> Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> >> Before "it is too late". ---page 3, line 3.
>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> >> GROUP READ of Beyond the Zero section of GR.
>>>>> >> >> >> In Memory of Dave Monroe and James Kyllo & because Laura Kelber.
>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> >> From scene to scene, sprockets to sprockets, as they were first
>>>>> >> >> >> thought to be. (But they're not. Who knows what they mean?)
>>>>> >> >> >> One week per sprocket bracket (since almost all have read it
>>>>> >> >> >> already,
>>>>> >> >> >> right, many more than once?). Pick your sprocket below.
>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> >> Starting now. Short sections. The Big Short. Martin Short.
>>>>> >> >> >> You can improvise day-by-day, they are so short, no need to prep
>>>>> >> >> >> within your busy life.Just point and ask questions and the smart
>>>>> >> >> >> under-posters will give the answers. Ask our translators. A--and
>>>>> >> >> >> the
>>>>> >> >> >> bloviators will blow. So you will have a breather. Did I say short?
>>>>> >> >> >> Did I say improvise? Did I say "Self, no need to say everything you
>>>>> >> >> >> think should go on record, anything more than zero on the page is
>>>>> >> >> >> better than zero and the beyond is still beyond."
>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> >> Jan 8--16 Pp 3--8 Mark Kohut, intrepid bloviator.
>>>>> >> >> >> Jan 17-23 pp 8--17
>>>>> >> >> >> Jan 24--31 pp 17--20
>>>>> >> >> >> (yes, only 3-4 pages; time already for catch-up after everyone jumps
>>>>> >> >> >> in with their overarching GR experiences and perceptions)
>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> >> Feb 7--14 pp 20-30
>>>>> >> >> >> Feb 14-21 pp 30-38
>>>>> >> >> >> Feb 21-27 pp 38-42
>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> >> Feb 28-Mar 5 pp 42-48
>>>>> >> >> >> Mar 6 -- 12 pp 48-54
>>>>> >> >> >> Mar 13-19 pp 54-61
>>>>> >> >> >> Mar 20-26 pp 61-72
>>>>> >> >> >> Mar 27-Apr 2 pp72--74
>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> >> Apr 3--9 pp 74-85
>>>>> >> >> >> Apr 10-16 pp 85-94
>>>>> >> >> >> Apr 17 -23 pp 94-116
>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> >> Spring break (and or catch-up with longest section)
>>>>> >> >> >> May 1--7 pp 116--121
>>>>> >> >> >> May 8-14 pp 122--139
>>>>> >> >> >> May 15-21 pp 139-147
>>>>> >> >> >> May 22-28 pp 147- 156
>>>>> >> >> >> May 29-Ju 4 pp 156 --170
>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> >> Ju 5 -11 pp 179--177
>>>>> >> >> >> Ju 12--19 pp 177-180 Mark Kohut, past riverrun, etc.
>>>>> >> >> >> (Will auction off an overarching
>>>>> >> >> >> summary to the
>>>>> >> >> >> first person who asks.)
>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> >> This pagination is from the Penguin Classics Deluxe Edition, Miller
>>>>> >> >> >> cover.
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