Why the Left Will Not Admit the Threat of Radical Islam

David Morris fqmorris at gmail.com
Mon Jan 11 13:59:19 CST 2016


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On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 1:54 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:

> "Leftists" is the new dirty word, it seems.
>
> Kai?  Are you now a "Rightists?" (Is that a word?) You have made
> ideological bed-fellows with some very wing-nutty types.  I know you are
> too smart for that, deep down.
>
> David Morris
>
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 1:26 PM, Danny Weltman <danny.weltman at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I learn so much interesting stuff about how much I hate when I read what
>> other people think about me. I had no idea I harbored so much bile in my
>> heart or that one of my best analogues in literature was Mephistopheles.
>> It's really an eye opener. Maybe with enough time and help from the Right,
>> I can divest myself of my hate of Westerners, Americans, Christians, and
>> the Enlightenment and join the Right in hating Islam. Until then I guess
>> I'll have to rest content with being a reactionary. At least now I know how
>> it feels to be called one!
>>
>> Danny
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 11:18 AM, Robert Mahnke <rpmahnke at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> This business about the how the left is reactionary was my favorite bit:
>>>
>>> *Leftists are fundamentally negative and oppositional.*  In* Faust*,
>>> Goethe refers to Mephistopheles as *Der Geist der stets verneint*, the
>>> spirit that always negates.  That is the spirit of the Left: destructive,
>>> nay-saying, reactionary.   So leftists take the side of Islamists because
>>> the latter oppose traditional American values despite the deadly threat
>>> Islamists pose to their own values.  Compare Robert Tracinski
>>> <http://thefederalist.com/2015/05/19/why-does-the-left-kowtow-to-islam/>
>>> :
>>>
>>> The left is fundamentally reactionary. It is a reaction against
>>> capitalism and against America. The left are defined by what they are
>>> against, or more accurately who they hate. So they are drawn to sympathy
>>> toward Islam because it is not-us: non-Western, non-American, neither
>>> Christian nor a product of the Enlightenment. And I guess that’s what the
>>> two ideologies have in common: they are both reactions against the supposed
>>> evils of the West. Which explains why leftists tend to find themselves
>>> uncomfortable and look for excuses to retreat when they are called upon to
>>> defend the West against this rival group of reactionaries.
>>>
>>> If that resonates with you in some way, I guess maybe the rest of it
>>> will make sense too.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:08 AM, Mark Thibodeau <jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Pfff... this is ludicrous, asinine, sputtering cant.
>>>>
>>>> Zero philosophical or even political value.
>>>>
>>>> J
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 4:17 AM, Kai Frederik Lorentzen
>>>> <lorentzen at hotmail.de> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> http://maverickphilosopher.typepad.com/maverick_philosopher/2015/05/why-the-left-will-not-admit-the-threat-of-radical-islam-revised-and-expanded.html
>>>> >
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