The Big Short
Mark Thibodeau
jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com
Sun Jan 17 21:52:34 CST 2016
Nobody is going to believe me, but I meant to send that to Laura and
only Laura, not the P-List.
I hereby apologize and withdraw my comment and await my deserved
verbal drawing and quartering.
J
On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 10:49 PM, Danny Weltman <danny.weltman at gmail.com> wrote:
> Mark, although it's probably clear from what I wrote that I agree with you
> when you say that this isn't really an instance of the "dumb blonde" thing,
> I think it's a little unfair to blame Laura's usage of the phrase on a case
> of mind-warts so serious as to render her point of view unimaginable
> (although apparently imaginable enough for you to speculate on its "Social
> Justice Warrior" etiology?), because "here, this thing's boring, we're going
> to make it sexy by having a sexy woman explain it" (and let's not kid
> ourselves by thinking it would ever have been anybody other than a sexy
> WOMAN, notwithstanding your usage of the term "human being") isn't exactly
> the sort of thing we've got a pat label for. Thus although "dumb blonde" is
> technically incorrect, I think it communicates a good chunk of what's
> objectionable, viz. that the only reason anyone is listening to this lady is
> how pretty she is, not because she's some sort of expert, because what the
> hell would this woman know about finance? She's just a pretty face, after
> all.
>
> Had Laura known she was going to get raked over the coals for revealing her
> alleged "virtue signaling" I imagine she might've been able to be a little
> more precise in her phrasing, but really, who could predict that they'd get
> shit for calling out sexism? The very idea is almost unthinkable!
>
> Danny
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 7:01 PM, Mark Thibodeau <jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> My point is that I think you are (perhaps purposefully, perhaps in an
>> effort to score some Social Justice Warrior "virtue signalling"
>> points, as the kids say these days) getting that whole scene wrong.
>>
>> It's not "It's so simple, an idiot naked bimbo slurping booze can explain
>> it".
>>
>> It's "It's so boring, we're going to make it sexy by having a sexy
>> human being explain it".
>>
>> There's a GULF of difference between the two. I can't even imagine how
>> deformed by ideological mind-warts someone's pov would have to be to
>> see it the way you're claiming to see it.
>>
>> J
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 10:08 AM, kelber at mindspring.com
>> <kelber at mindspring.com> wrote:
>> > How would it be if they said, " this stuff is so easy to understand,
>> > we're
>> > going to have a black guy explain it to you. " Could you rationalize
>> > that?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Laura,
>> >
>> > "Sometimes one just has to stand naked"---Dylan.
>> > Metaphor! Metaphor!
>> >
>> > I wrote a longer piece this morn on my reaction but
>> > I'll just say, I'm sorry I failed you....I did like it too.
>> >
>> > Rationalized the bubbles scene as a kind of Coen Bros metajoke
>> > and we saw nothing, nothing...
>> > and just figured the lap dancer scene was right from the book.
>> > (a naive sexist too probably).
>> >
>> > Ryan Gosling turned me on more than the women and I'm not that way, just
>> > sayin'. (Although some say as men get older.......)
>> >
>> > On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 9:00 AM, Mark Thibodeau <jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >> The script may be sexist and typo-riddled, but the movie is freaking
>> >> fantastic. Better than The Wolf of Wall Street while performing some
>> >> of the same tricks. More than an engrossing bit of entertainment, it
>> >> also works as a public service.
>> >>
>> >> It's fucking great. Don't let anybody tell you different.
>> >>
>> >> J
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