Reed's Mumbo Jumbo and Pynchon

[ish mailian]

Gotta get round to Reed's book on Ali someday soon.

Two of favorites there:

http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/06/19/ishmael-reed-gets-in-the-ring/

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 4:10 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:

> Get me Rewrite: Lose that "just"...
>
> He got so many stories and characters from his Navy experience.
> And he so disses academia vs real experience.
>
> he writes that in American society in the Eisenhower years
> "there seemed to be no reason why it should all not just go on as it was."
> [notice his use of 'just']....Talk about Entropy, cultural stasis as
> entropy and a
> cultural judgment shared by many other writers and thinkers, I think.
> And how he embraced and learned from the break-out artists.
>
> (Again, one of my favorite images, not shared by many, is Phoenix having
> to walk back and forth between the walls in the master's house in The
> Master)
>
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 9:06 AM, ish mailian <ishmailian at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Just Zeitgeist synchronicity.   Just? as in merely?   What was in the
>> wind is probably more important than sources, no?
>> And more so, as Pynchon explains in that SL Introduction, once he begins
>> to gain confidence and stop all the fancy dancing kid stuff and get out On
>> the Road, a Wandering Scholar. BTW, F S Fitzgerald quit school and did a
>> stint in the army too.
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 8:13 AM, Perry Noid <coolwithdoc at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Oh wow. I never bothered to compare the publishing dates. Something must
>>> have been in the air I suppose.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 19, 2016, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Mumbo Jumbo was published in 1972. I cannot easily find out what month.
>>>>
>>>> Gravity's Rainbow was published early in 1973.
>>>> Which means the GR manuscript was turned over to Viking by summer
>>>> 1972.
>>>>
>>>> Which makes the mention late in GR a shout-out to a book he likes a lot.
>>>> An incorporated blurb as it were providing a cool aside about a new
>>>> writer.
>>>>
>>>> There is evidence---Catch -22 probably---that even then Pynchon was
>>>> able to read
>>>> some new novels in manuscript or galley form. But if he couldn't read
>>>> Mumbo-Jumbo
>>>> this way, then he must have read it as he was finishing up and or
>>>> proofing GR
>>>> himself.
>>>>
>>>> If he could have read it earlier than 1972, most of GR was finished
>>>> anyway so
>>>> no major influence. Just Zeitgeist synchronicity.
>>>>
>>>> which leads to the next post.
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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