Reed's Mumbo Jumbo and Pynchon

Steven Koteff steviekoteff at gmail.com
Wed Jan 20 10:36:25 CST 2016


Hard to imagine how anyone could not be captivated by that scene in The Master. 

> On Jan 20, 2016, at 3:10 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Get me Rewrite: Lose that "just"...
> 
> He got so many stories and characters from his Navy experience. 
> And he so disses academia vs real experience. 
> 
> he writes that in American society in the Eisenhower years
> "there seemed to be no reason why it should all not just go on as it was."
> [notice his use of 'just']....Talk about Entropy, cultural stasis as entropy and a 
> cultural judgment shared by many other writers and thinkers, I think. 
> And how he embraced and learned from the break-out artists. 
> 
> (Again, one of my favorite images, not shared by many, is Phoenix having
> to walk back and forth between the walls in the master's house in The Master)
> 
>> On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 9:06 AM, ish mailian <ishmailian at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Just Zeitgeist synchronicity.   Just? as in merely?   What was in the wind is probably more important than sources, no? 
>> And more so, as Pynchon explains in that SL Introduction, once he begins to gain confidence and stop all the fancy dancing kid stuff and get out On the Road, a Wandering Scholar. BTW, F S Fitzgerald quit school and did a stint in the army too.  
>> 
>>> On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 8:13 AM, Perry Noid <coolwithdoc at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Oh wow. I never bothered to compare the publishing dates. Something must have been in the air I suppose. 
>>> 
>>>> On Tuesday, January 19, 2016, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Mumbo Jumbo was published in 1972. I cannot easily find out what month. 
>>>> 
>>>> Gravity's Rainbow was published early in 1973.
>>>> Which means the GR manuscript was turned over to Viking by summer
>>>> 1972. 
>>>> 
>>>> Which makes the mention late in GR a shout-out to a book he likes a lot.
>>>> An incorporated blurb as it were providing a cool aside about a new writer. 
>>>> 
>>>> There is evidence---Catch -22 probably---that even then Pynchon was able to read 
>>>> some new novels in manuscript or galley form. But if he couldn't read Mumbo-Jumbo
>>>> this way, then he must have read it as he was finishing up and or proofing GR
>>>> himself. 
>>>> 
>>>> If he could have read it earlier than 1972, most of GR was finished anyway so
>>>> no major influence. Just Zeitgeist synchronicity. 
>>>> 
>>>> which leads to the next post. 
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