The Big Short
Keith Davis
kbob42 at gmail.com
Fri Jan 22 15:24:28 CST 2016
I'm guessing John Bove is an alias?
Sent from my iPad
> On Jan 22, 2016, at 2:01 PM, john bove <malignd at gmx.com> wrote:
>
> Am I missing something? All the blonde women I know ARE dumb ...
>
> Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 at 10:49 PM
> From: "Danny Weltman" <danny.weltman at gmail.com>
> To: No recipient address
> Cc: "pynchon -l" <pynchon-l at waste.org>
> Subject: Re: The Big Short
> Mark, although it's probably clear from what I wrote that I agree with you when you say that this isn't really an instance of the "dumb blonde" thing, I think it's a little unfair to blame Laura's usage of the phrase on a case of mind-warts so serious as to render her point of view unimaginable (although apparently imaginable enough for you to speculate on its "Social Justice Warrior" etiology?), because "here, this thing's boring, we're going to make it sexy by having a sexy woman explain it" (and let's not kid ourselves by thinking it would ever have been anybody other than a sexy WOMAN, notwithstanding your usage of the term "human being") isn't exactly the sort of thing we've got a pat label for. Thus although "dumb blonde" is technically incorrect, I think it communicates a good chunk of what's objectionable, viz. that the only reason anyone is listening to this lady is how pretty she is, not because she's some sort of expert, because what the hell would this woman know about finance? She's just a pretty face, after all.
>
> Had Laura known she was going to get raked over the coals for revealing her alleged "virtue signaling" I imagine she might've been able to be a little more precise in her phrasing, but really, who could predict that they'd get shit for calling out sexism? The very idea is almost unthinkable!
>
> Danny
>
>
>
>> On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 7:01 PM, Mark Thibodeau <jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com> wrote:
>> My point is that I think you are (perhaps purposefully, perhaps in an
>> effort to score some Social Justice Warrior "virtue signalling"
>> points, as the kids say these days) getting that whole scene wrong.
>>
>> It's not "It's so simple, an idiot naked bimbo slurping booze can explain it".
>>
>> It's "It's so boring, we're going to make it sexy by having a sexy
>> human being explain it".
>>
>> There's a GULF of difference between the two. I can't even imagine how
>> deformed by ideological mind-warts someone's pov would have to be to
>> see it the way you're claiming to see it.
>>
>> J
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 10:08 AM, kelber at mindspring.com
>> <kelber at mindspring.com> wrote:
>> > How would it be if they said, " this stuff is so easy to understand, we're
>> > going to have a black guy explain it to you. " Could you rationalize that?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Laura,
>> >
>> > "Sometimes one just has to stand naked"---Dylan.
>> > Metaphor! Metaphor!
>> >
>> > I wrote a longer piece this morn on my reaction but
>> > I'll just say, I'm sorry I failed you....I did like it too.
>> >
>> > Rationalized the bubbles scene as a kind of Coen Bros metajoke
>> > and we saw nothing, nothing...
>> > and just figured the lap dancer scene was right from the book.
>> > (a naive sexist too probably).
>> >
>> > Ryan Gosling turned me on more than the women and I'm not that way, just
>> > sayin'. (Although some say as men get older.......)
>> >
>> > On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 9:00 AM, Mark Thibodeau <jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >> The script may be sexist and typo-riddled, but the movie is freaking
>> >> fantastic. Better than The Wolf of Wall Street while performing some
>> >> of the same tricks. More than an engrossing bit of entertainment, it
>> >> also works as a public service.
>> >>
>> >> It's fucking great. Don't let anybody tell you different.
>> >>
>> >> J
>> >> -
>> >> Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l
>> > -
>> > Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l
>> -
>> Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l
> - Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://waste.org/pipermail/pynchon-l/attachments/20160122/8252ac06/attachment.html>
More information about the Pynchon-l
mailing list