Feminist Explanations: Male Power, Hostility, and Sexual Coercion

John Bailey sundayjb at gmail.com
Fri Jan 22 19:05:54 CST 2016


Sorry if I said something offensive. When I wrote suburbs I didn't mean
Everytown, USA.

I was talking about the major hubs of the sex trafficking trade in SE Asia
and the Middle East, as well as places in Africa where rape is deployed as
a weapon of war and a 'corrective' punishment for perceived offences.
"Hundreds" is not a number, no. But I've witnessed firsthand one of these
suburbs in the middle of Singapore's capital and this was not a red light
district, it was very, very evidently slavery en masse. I've read about
Dubai and places in Eastern Europe and so on as well.

But I can't gather what your stake is in getting into an argument here and
I didn't mean to start one, as I say.

On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 11:55 AM, Mark Thibodeau <jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Goodbye, John Bove.
>
> J
>
> On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 7:39 PM, john bove <malignd at gmx.com> wrote:
>
>> No.  Back up your claims.  Is that a real number?  Facts matter, asshole.
>>
>> *Sent:* Friday, January 22, 2016 at 5:59 PM
>> *From:* "John Bailey" <sundayjb at gmail.com>
>> *To:* "john bove" <malignd at gmx.com>
>> *Cc:* "pynchon -l" <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: Feminist Explanations: Male Power, Hostility, and Sexual
>> Coercion
>> Geez, if they can get you asking the wrong questions...
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 7:53 AM, john bove <malignd at gmx.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I don't disagree with your underlying point about sexual predation but --
>>>
>>> "There are suburbs in which the rape of hundreds of women occurs on a
>>> nightly basis."
>>>
>>> You're saying that there are numerous suburbs that each endure some 700
>>> rapes weekly?  that would be 36,400 rapes yearly in any one of a number of
>>> suburbs.  How big are these suburbs?
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 13, 2016 at 6:11 AM
>>> *From:* "John Bailey" <sundayjb at gmail.com>
>>> *To:* "ish mailian" <ishmailian at gmail.com>
>>> *Cc:* "Pynchon List" <Pynchon-l at waste.org>
>>> *Subject:* Re: Feminist Explanations: Male Power, Hostility, and Sexual
>>> Coercion
>>> The Left-Right binary also fails when it comes to the f--king terrifying
>>> scale of sexual slavery today, on every continent, perpetuated by and on
>>> every race and ethnicity and gender, but some more than others. Maybe
>>> Antarctica is exempt but I wouldn't be bloody surprised. There are suburbs
>>> in which the rape of hundreds of women occurs on a nightly basis. These
>>> include South-East Asian suburbs frequented by hordes of secular white men.
>>> The newspapers don't report it, so much. All of this has nothing to do with
>>> Koln, but I firmly believe the sexual terrorism Ish is linking to uses
>>> religion, commerce, psychology, art, whatever, merely as an excuse.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 9:45 PM, ish mailian <ishmailian at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The Left-Right binary ignores the facts about sexual terrorism and how
>>>> it is promoted by religions, and specifically, how the combination of
>>>> demographics, economics, that is, young me without young women, emigrating
>>>> to economies that are weak, and specifically weak in their ability to
>>>> employee young and under-educated young men, make women more vulnerable to
>>>> assault.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 5:40 AM, ish mailian <ishmailian at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It discusses rape as a power-motivated crime, male dominance and
>>>>> sexual coercion, sexual coercion as a learned social control of women,
>>>>> pornography as the cultural eroticization of sexual coercion, and sexual
>>>>> coercion as sexual terrorism. The feminist analysis defines sexual coercion
>>>>> as power-motivated and upholding a system of male dominance. The nature of
>>>>> sexual coercion as socially-constructed, learned behavior is linked to
>>>>> socialization influences that affect males, particularly pornography. A
>>>>> definition of the feminist approach to sexual coercion has three
>>>>> components: acknowledgment of the gender differential in power;
>>>>> acknowledgment of how these disparities in power affect all social
>>>>> interactions between women and men as well as individual behavior and
>>>>> psychological issues; and acknowledgment of the principle of hegemonic
>>>>> control. A discussion of sexual coercion as sexual terrorism concludes the
>>>>> chapter. Sexual terrorism is defined as a system by which males frighten,
>>>>> thereby controlling and dominating, females. Sexual terrorism has five
>>>>> components: ideology, propaganda, indiscriminate and amoral violence,
>>>>> voluntary compliance, and society's perception of the terrorist and the
>>>>> terrorized.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.ncjrs.gov/index.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> - Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?listpynchon-l
>>
>> - Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?listpynchon-l
>>
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