In the zone: perception and presentation of space in German and American ... - Hugo Caviola - Google Books

[Mark Kohut]

Perhaps Oedipa's whole journey can be seen as a trip into a zone, or zone
within a zone later?  The mirror breaks at her start, in the bathroom,
which I've thought at least means she has lost her old identity, is unable
to see her old self....but, and especially with her Nighttown trip and the
meeting under the bridge.....

she is in some kind of Zone thematically, it might be interpreted.

On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 1:05 PM, Heikki R <
situations.journeys.comedy at gmail.com> wrote:

> Yep. I'd add Cocteau's Zone in Orpheus (1950) - this mercurial
> intermediary space (that Orpheus can enter through mirrors) between the
> everyday world and Death's abodes. The "Bengt Ekerot/Maria Casarès Film
> Festival" indeed...
>
> On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 5:02 PM, ish mailian <ishmailian at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Check out Brian McHale's book _Postmodernist Fiction_, chapter 3, "In
>> the Zone" where the chapter's epigraph is from GR, but the discussion
>> begins with older works.
>>
>> There is Julio Cortazar's zone, William Burroughs's, Alasdair Gray's.
>> Behind them all lies Apollinaire's poem "Zone" (from Alcools, 1913),
>> whose speaker, strolling through the immigrant and red-light districts
>> of Paris, finds in them an objective correlative for modern Europe and
>> his own marginal, heterogeneous, and outlaw experience. Clearly
>> derived from Apollinaire's, Cortazar's zone (in 62: A Model Kit, 1968)
>> is a space of overlapping subjectivities, including shared fantasies
>> and nightmares, which comes into being whenever his cast of bohemians
>> and cosmopolitans convenes somewhere in "the DMZ [demilitarized zone]
>> atmosphere of cafes." Burroughs's zone, or interzone, is a vast,
>> ramshackle structure in which all the world's architectural styles are
>> fused and all its races and cultures mingle, the apotheosis of the
>> Third World shanty-town. Sometimes it is located in Latin America or
>> North Africa, sometimes (as in The Ticket That Exploded, 1962) on
>> another planet, sometimes (as in Cities of the Red Night, 1981) in a
>> lost civilization of the distant past. By contrast, Alasdair Gray's
>> zone (in Lanark, 1981), a space of paradox modeled on the Wonderland
>> and Looking-glass worlds of the Alice books, has been displaced to the
>> ambiguous no man's land between cities. IN THE ZONE 45 Finally,
>> combining elements of all these postmodernist zones, there is Thomas
>> Pynchon's zone. "In the Zone," the title....(43-44).
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 7:51 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Looking up the phrase "In the Zone" in Google Books to check some
>> possible
>> > resonances from Pynchon, I learned this. Except for a literal use in an
>> old
>> > astronomy book from 1915...stars in a zone.....Gravity's Rainbow is the
>> > earliest
>> > work to use it...(page 4 of my google books search).....
>> >
>> > Seems, from a book about,  there was a place outside, around Paris in
>> the
>> > mid-eighteen hundreds referred to as the Zone, which seems to have been
>> very
>> > like a preterite
>> > zone, a Nighttown zone, ala my recent post.
>> >
>> > From Google Books, there is no indication that later (than GR ) uses of
>> In
>> > the Zone--
>> > that famous psychological meaning [with Flow] or in golf and anything
>> else
>> > existed (in books) before GR and before the time of GR.
>> >
>> > Here is a scholarly book that starts with using Pynchon's phrase.....
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> https://books.google.com/books?id=3qJZAAAAMAAJ&q=%22In+the+zone%22&dq=%22In+the+zone%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjRm5TZoMfKAhUFvYMKHeTEBxo4KBDoAQgiMAA
>> >
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPad
>> >
>> -
>> Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l
>>
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