NP: Moby Dick

Perry Noid coolwithdoc at gmail.com
Sat Jan 30 09:08:25 CST 2016


I think I will pick up the Norton edition. I have this bantam paperback
that is unadorned with not even a footnote. Had a lengthy convo with a
friend who had just finished the book for the first time who remarked on
the vagina dentata of the Whale written about in an introduction to his
copy by a guy named Beaver. Thought it was a joke at first. Anyway, I'm not
particularly interested in the gynophobia of the novel, only a little, but
I'm sure Beaver has much more to say other than that. Just made me realize
that my copy of the book is pretty bare bones.

Something I am particularly interested in is a comparison of the painting
from the spouter inn and the relief on the Ecuadorean doubloon. They seem
to be analogues to me. While we are on the subject if anyone knows of a
piece comparing the two images I would be interested in that.

On Saturday, January 30, 2016, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes, I do hope so....I have read Buell's essay alluded to in that
> Master's thesis paper I sent around which Perry reminded of...
>
> and, without having reread Moby Dick, and I have read about it
> as well, I did agree with Buell that Pynchon knew it, of course.
>  but did not
> even sorta 'rewrite' it as the Master Thesis Baiter suggested....
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 7:18 AM, ish mailian <ishmailian at gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ishmailian at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
>> Yes, the Nortons are excellent and because they are a standard in
>> undergraduate courses can be picked up "used" (M-D, like GR is a book
>> many buy but never finish) on the cheap.
>>
>> http://books.wwnorton.com/books/webad.aspx?id=11008
>>
>> Scholars, like Professor Parker,  may prefer the Northwestern-Newberry
>> Edition: Moby Dick, or The Whale, Volume 6, Scholarly Edition
>> http://www.nupress.northwestern.edu/content/moby-dick-or-whale-0
>>
>>
>> Once you are into the book, I hope we can discuss it and how it may
>> have influenced Pynchon and his generation (Kesey & Co.)  and more
>> recently....
>>
>> When and if you have a more specific focus, let me know and I will try
>> to make a suggestion or two.
>>
>> A beautiful book:
>> AHAB'S WIFE
>> Or, The Star-Gazer.
>> By Sena Jeter Naslund.
>>
>>  https://www.nytimes.com/books/99/10/03/reviews/991003.03derast.html
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 5:00 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','mark.kohut at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>> > If .99c can be spent for a Kindle book, free app for, I recommend the
>> Norton
>> > Critical
>> > edition as the one that could be used if one had no other sources.
>> >
>> > Go look at it at Amazon, all kinds of biographical, historical, very
>> > interesting stuff and critical essays
>> > and annotations....
>> >
>> > There are lotsa good full books on Moby Dick. Lotsa good essays. One can
>> > find lotsa critical
>> > discussion via Moby Dick and Melville in Google Books, though often not
>> the
>> > whole piece but intros,
>> > summaries, riffs from the books, etc.
>> >
>> > In libraries, one can find the works of those who started the rebirth of
>> > Melville in the beginning of the 20th Century.
>> > Matthiessen, Newton Arvin and the Plist-known name, Lewis Mumford.
>> >
>> > Herschel Parker has written the major full definitive biography. See
>> what he
>> > mentions anywhere.
>> > I asked him once at a signing if he thought
>> > the stammered uncontrolled punch in Billy Budd COULD HAVE been inspired
>> by
>> > that charge some
>> > have brought against him in recent decades, that he may have hit his
>> wife. I
>> > speculated maybe that once, wildly,
>> > not really angrily a blow at her, but an angry blow that did hit her
>> and he
>> > knew too late he should have been
>> > in control, not so overcome with anger. Artistically rendered into Billy
>> > Budd.
>> >
>> > He thought No to that. Because he Is uncertain about the domestic
>> violence
>> > charge.
>> >
>> > On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 1:51 PM, <kelber at mindspring.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kelber at mindspring.com');>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Calling you, Ishmailian, but others should chime in.
>> >>
>> >> Looking for recommendations of critical essays/papers on Moby Dick, in
>> >> advance of a reread that, hopefully, will be more informed than the
>> last
>> >> one. I don't have a specific focus in mind - lit crit (not too
>> jargon-y -
>> >> I'm a civilian), psychological, philosophical, character studies,
>> language,
>> >> the theme of work, etc. Basically, anything anyone here has read that
>> they
>> >> found illuminating. The one criterion: must be available on line.
>> >>
>> >> Laura
>> >> -
>> >> Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l
>> >
>> >
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