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János Széky miksaapja at gmail.com
Sun Jun 19 15:47:35 CDT 2016


I don't think the Oven is a Holocaust reference. As Timothy Snyder says, it
is Auschwitz that has been synonymous with the Holocaust since the
beginning as opposed to the real point of gravity, that is, the eastern
region of present-day Poland (Majdanek etc.). The reason for this is that
in Auschwitz there were survivors, among them serious authors, and
described what they saw there. Now several of them were Hungarian (the
majority of those murdered during the last year came from Hungary), and
I've met some survivors too. To cut it short, the main synekdoche for
Holocaust was the gas chamber rather than the crematory, which they never
called "oven" anyway.

2016-06-19 21:57 GMT+02:00 Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>:

> Would be an interesting piece of cultural linguistic analysis that's for
> sure.
>
> All I know is in my very parochial Catholic and anti-Semitic world of
> Appalachia known as Pittsburgh, it was the synecdoche.
>
> On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 1:16 PM, Richard Romeo <richard.romeo at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Why ovens became a metaphor for the Holocaust perplexes me since most
>> were already dead before they were placed in them (at least in the death
>> camps)
>> Misappropriation of the word that became conventional wisdom over time
>> most likely
>>
>> rich
>>
>>
>> > On Jun 19, 2016, at 7:07 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > The Oven chapter. And GR is NOT about the Holocaust AT ALL? Don't think
>> that holds up.
>> > How does the Hansel & Gretel Story work as depth metaphor and there are
>> other (is another)
>> > Great Northern Myth at work.
>> >
>> > Why a threesome?
>>
>
>
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