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What I get is that P is alluding to the opera, H&G. It has, I guess
something to do with the oven, but more to do with mood. Back to R&J
in the wood, same kind of clash between the peace and mythical beauty
of the wood and the violent and treacherous war.

On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 4:47 PM, Thomas Eckhardt
<thomas.eckhardt at uni-bonn.de> wrote:
> I am not quite sure what you all are getting at but, yes, Winnetou is most
> certainly a hero. He is also the epitome of the noble savage in German
> literature/culture. Old Shatterhand represents the good German abroad. They
> are blood brothers.
>
> Didn't remember the bit about Shatterhand being an engineer, though. Nice.
>
> As for GR and the section at hand: This is, of course, about "Hänsel und
> Gretel", the well-known fairy tale (or horror story) by the Grimm brothers.
> Note that the Grimm brothers turned the wicked mother of the original
> version of the tale into a step-mother, presumably because otherwise it
> would have been just too, err, grim.
>
>
>
> Am 22.06.2016 um 11:19 schrieb János Széky:
>>
>> And don't forget about Winnetou's best friend the German (!) engineer
>> (!) Old Shatterhand.
>>
>> 2016-06-22 11:07 GMT+02:00 Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com
>> <mailto:mark.kohut at gmail.com>>:
>>
>>
>>           Winnetou III - Winnetou Trilogy Volume Three - Page 336
>>
>> <https://books.google.com/books?id=6ywkcf1YsfAC&pg=PA336&dq=winnetou+as+hero&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjI5-HatrnNAhXFbB4KHeO2AVwQ6AEILjAD>
>>
>>
>> <https://books.google.com/books?id=6ywkcf1YsfAC&pg=PA336&dq=winnetou+as+hero&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjI5-HatrnNAhXFbB4KHeO2AVwQ6wEILzAD>
>>     https://books.google.com/books?id=6ywkcf1YsfAC
>>     Preview
>>
>> <https://books.google.com/books?id=6ywkcf1YsfAC&pg=PA336&dq=winnetou+as+hero&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjI5-HatrnNAhXFbB4KHeO2AVwQuwUIMDAD>
>>     “Yes, you're a hero; I know that, and I can hear it again now,
>>     because only a hero can say such words. We all bemoan that you're
>>     not a Kiowa!” He left and I was considerate enough not to tell him
>>     that his lament found no echo in my unfeeling  ...
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