BtZ42 pages 116-121

Mark Kohut mark.kohut at gmail.com
Wed Jun 29 04:02:17 CDT 2016


Then, even this OED entry seems to indicate he chose
surfrider with no hyphen. Purposely one infers.

On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 4:57 AM, Mike Jing <gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Here's the OED entry.
>
> surf-rider, n.
>
> Now chiefly arch.
>
>   A person who surf-rides; a surfer.
>
> 1851   H. T. Cheever Life in Sandwich Islands iii. 42   The great
> crested wall..is every moment impending over one, and threatening to
> bury the bold surf-rider in its watery ruin.
> 1882   Hawaiian Almanac 52   At one time they sent their champion
> surf-rider to compete with chiefs in the sport at Hawaii.
> 1938   Life 7 Feb. 41/2 (caption)    Long regular combers, formed on a
> gradually shelving beach, are a surf rider's dream of paradise.
> 1999   H. Turtledove Walk in Hell (2000) xvi. 465   The surf-rider,
> who came up onto the beach with the plank on his head, was a couple of
> inches above six feet.
>
> On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 4:33 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Kenneth Burke via Susan Sontag:
> > "Completely inside his own enthralling way of unpacking a text. He spent
> > almost a year with the class reading Conrad’s Victory word by word,
> image by
> > image. It was from Burke that I learned how to read. I still read the
> way he
> > taught me."
> >
> >
> > P. 116 "surfriders on the combers of morning"......[a comber, a long sea
> > wave]...so simply lyrical with a simple perfect analogy....
> >
> > interesting that he chooses the word surfrider. First, it is the
> earliest,
> > almost archaic way, as such compound nouns usually move
> > to split themselves, as this word was doing,  might have done, by the
> time
> > of GR even. (Anyone have OED access?). Almost any uses now, according to
> > Google's
> > N--Gram are as "surf rider," the natural way it is suggested via prompts
> as
> > well. But surfrider to me seems somehow better,
> > suggesting in itself in one word the image of what a surfer does. (more
> low
> > explication, God help us)
> >
> > He used a couple such compound nouns early in V, I remember.
> >
> > And, the word or phrase has not lasted, it has been wave-buried by
> "surfer".
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 6:29 AM, Eileen Pierce <
> eileenpierce333 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> They’ve cut Slothrop loose again, he wanders, seeking places the
> followers
> >> might not follow.  Released from St. Veronica’s, he is reunited with
> Darlene
> >> from St. Veronica's.  Then tea and candies with Mrs. Quoad.  (Ha!)
> >>
> >> "The Meggezone is like being belted in the head with a Swiss Alp.
> Menthol
> >> icicles immediately begin to grow from the roof of Slothrop’s mouth.
> Polar
> >> bears seek toenail-holds up the freezing frosty-grape alveolar
> clusters  in
> >> his lungs.  It hurts his teeth too much to breathe, even through his
> nose,
> >> even necktie loosened, with his nose down inside the neck of his
> olive-drab
> >> T-shirt.  Benzoin vapors seep into his brain.  His head floats in a
> halo of
> >> ice.”  (Wow.)
> >>
> >> Slothrop in bed with Darlene, “hunting across the zero between waking
> and
> >> sleep”.  Mrs. Quoad is in the parlor dreaming of the King’s hand on her
> >> neck.  (Huh?)  Rocket and erection.  All the while, watched from behind
> the
> >> orange shade.
> >>
> >> Thank you p-listers for this fascinating group read.  I look forward to
> >> reading your thoughts on this section.  Enjoy the day!  e
> >>
> >>
> >> Eileen Pierce
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> >>
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