A point-by-point breakdown of the first half of that book I was telling you about.

Keith Davis kbob42 at gmail.com
Sat Mar 5 18:29:43 CST 2016


This is great! Could you read a few more books for me...;-)

On Sat, Mar 5, 2016 at 6:15 PM, Mark Thibodeau <jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com>
wrote:

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> *KONSPIRACY KLASSICS CORNER!*
>
> *THE YANKEE AND COWBOY WAR*
>
> *The Astonishing Link between the JFK Assassination and the deposing of
> Nixon *
>
> *Conspiracies from Dallas to Watergate and Beyond*
>
> *by Carl Oglesby*
>
>
> A few years back, a friend loaned me his copy of *Carl Oglesby*'s *The
> Yankee and Cowboy War*, and after reading it I was stunned that I had
> previously neither read it nor even heard about it. I found it both moving
> and profoundly impressive. In his masterful dissection of the mid-70's
> American political milieu, Oglesby gives us nothing less than an absolutely
> convincing operating model of the forces clashing behind the scenes in
> post-World War II America, as well as a detailed diagnosis of exactly where
> and why things went terribly wrong. He presents valuable ideas that have
> found their way into the works of later authors, most notably *Sidney
> Blumenthal*, whose 1986 best-seller *The Rise of the
> Counter-Establishment* reads almost like a sequel.
>
>
> I believe The Yankee Cowboy War is essential reading for anyone searching
> for honest answers about the origins of our current condition.
> Unfortunately, the book is long out of print. I also understand that most
> of you reading this are busy people who don't have time to read every
> worthy book that there is to read. Therefore, I have decided to use this
> space to publish my "reading notes", taken during my second reading, so
> that interested parties can get the gist of the book's main theses, the
> numerous topics it covers, as well as the individuals and events discussed
> in it.
>
>
> I will be posting these reading notes periodically over the next few days.
> Obviously, this is a poor substitute for reading the book, itself, but it's
> a decent primer, and for the researcher in a hurry, it should do in a
> pinch. Watch for further installments, coming soon!
>
>
> *PART ONE: THE CLANDESTINE ELITES*
>
>
> · *Watergate* and the *JFK* assassination were not isolated incidents,
> but linked parts of a secret war between two American Elites: the
> *Yankees* (Eastern Establishment) and the *Cowboys* (Sunbelt, New
> Money, Counter-Establishment).
>
>
> · A hidden drama of coup and counter-coup, intrinsically linked
> conspiracies, inner oligarchic power sphere, invisible gov’t, above the
> law, beyond moral rule… a clandestine American state, embryonic police
> state.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
>
> · *Operation Garden Plot*, *COINTELPRO*, *Operation Chaos*.
>
>
> · *CIA* contracting *ITT* to oust *Allende* in Chile is an example of
> ruthlessness, just like crimes and cover-up at Dealy Plaza and the
> Watergate.
>
>
> · What are the origins of these internal government divisions?
>
>
> 1. CIA intel division vs. CIA operational division.
>
> 2. Pentagon vs. FBI
>
> 3. CIA vs. Pentagon
>
> 4. CIA vs. FBI
>
> 5. POTUS and all of the above
>
>
> · Destabilization of the post-Reconstruction unity, which, in turn, was
> made stronger by *FDR* in the WWII period (post-war consensus). 60’s,
> 70’s tumult.
>
>
> · The intensification of clandestine, illicit measures against racial and
> anti-war dissent coincided with the use of these methods within the state
> as post-war consensus failed.
>
>
> · Dallas/Watergate: breakdown of the incumbent national coalition… Greater
> Northeast powers with the greater Southwest powers, the post-Civil War,
> post-Reconstruction coalition, the New Deal, the Yankees and Cowboys.
>
>
> · Cold War tensions between two separate and distinct and contradictory
> domains of World Historical Truth: Northeast “détente” and Southwest
> “militarism”.
>
>
> · In Europe, we could evidently live with communism, whereas in the Third
> World, we evidently could not. “Spheres of “détente and violence”… an
> untenable paradox.
>
>
> · When it became clear that the USA couldn’t win militarily in the Third
> World without risking war in the North Atlantic, consensus dissolved.
>
>
> · Dallas, Nov 22, was an elite power collision, both sensed and real.
>
>
> · Dichotomous Disunity: The Southwest was pro-escalation, on balance,
> Frontierist, taking the China-lobby position.
>
>
> · Dichotomous Disunity: The Northeast was pro-pullback, on balance,
> Atlanticist, CFR, NATO-conscious position.
>
>
> · YANKEES:
>
> 1. David Rockefeller
>
> 2. Ivy League
>
> 3. Exclusive clubs of Manhattan, Boston and Georgetown
>
> 4. CFR, Round Table
>
> 5. Eleanor Roosevelt
>
> 6. The Dulles Brothers
>
> 7. Massive Retaliation Doctrine
>
> 8. The Kennedys
>
>
> · COWBOYS:
>
> 1. Howard Hughes
>
> 2. NFL
>
> 3. Exclusive clubs of New Orleans, Dallas and Orange County (both sides)
>
> 4. LBJ
>
> 5. Conally and Hunt
>
> 6. Bay of Pigs team
>
> 7. Nixon
>
>
> · The persistence of Civil War splits in the current situation.
>
>
> · *Carroll Quigley* had already talked of these themes before Oglesby in
> his *Tragedy and Hope*.
>
>
> · Disintegration of Wall Street influence as the Southwest and Far West
> influence increase, commensurate with a dissolving of the Middle Class and
> a rise in bourgeoisie.
>
>
> · Northeast Establishment: Semi-aristocratic.
>
>
> · Southwest Counter-Establishment: Petit Bourgeois.
>
>
> · Southwestern money was dependent on government investment: oil,
> military, aviation, space, natural resources. This is a paradox.
>
>
> · Oglesby argues that the Atlanticist / Frontierist split is primal, and
> that it runs under everything… 1960.
>
>
> · YANKEE:
>
> 1. Global Scope
>
> 2. At home in the Great World
>
> 3. Regards it as a whole, in context
>
> 4. Good World Order = Relations with allies
>
> 5. Relations with Western Democracies
>
> 6. USA seen as a continuation of Europe’s culture
>
> 7. Europe as key world theater
>
> 8. Fate of USA linked with Europe
>
> 9. White cultural destiny transcending boundaries of nation
>
> 10. The West = One World
>
> 11. Monopolists who broke faith with the Vietnam project because of the
> high probability of failure
>
> 12. Monopolist East Coast Establishment
>
>
> · COWBOY:
>
> 1. Ties to Europe NOT obvious
>
> 2. Old World vs. New World
>
> 3. Rejects Atlanticism in favor of Frontierism
>
> 4. Expanding wilderness frontier and “Pacific strategy”
>
> 5. Cowboy entrepreneurs fought to keep faith alive because of the
> necessity of success
>
> 6. Tycoon (Western)
>
> 7. They supported *Johnson* and *Nixon* all the way towards a final
> military solution
>
> 8. “Only the strong survive”
>
>
> · What were the roots of the union in the first place? The frontier which
> allowed for the continued emergence of  entrepreneurs long after the
> establishment of the first monopolies.
>
>
> · Marx never studied states that had so much frontier.
>
>
> · The frontier was a reprieve for democracy… and capitalism! All it took
> was genocide.
>
>
> · Energies of expansion took two centuries… finally taking Alaska and
> Hawaii. We have no way of knowing how important this expansionism was in
> keeping the natural American Cowboy/Yankee divide under control.
>
>
> · The success of various Asian revolutionary movements proved a perplexing
> dilemma to the USA. With Asians successfully defending themselves as
> self-modernizing, post-colonial entities against American influence,
> America had run out of frontier.
>
>
> · To comprehend the assassination of JFK (as with Lincoln) is to
> understand a basic event in modern government. It’s a necessity to
> understand… an “absolute pre-condition” to self-government, the first step
> towards the restoration of a legitimate state.
>
>
> · Today’s frontier is the fact that there is no more frontier.
>
>
> *PART TWO COMING SOON!*
>
>


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