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[Keith Davis]

Very nice, Mark.

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> On Mar 14, 2016, at 10:57 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
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> And/or, P's other trope " as so-and-so is always saying"....The screaming is always present, always now, bombs screaming somewhere all the time.....
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>> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 10:40 AM, Steven Koteff <steviekoteff at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Some quick thoughts on the verb form in the opening line.
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>> I should expound on this in more detail, but there's something....temporal about the fact that it's a "screaming" and not a "scream." Or not that something "screams." Screaming, as gerund, is a noun formed from a verb. A verb is something that effects change. That initiates flux. That thus contains and causes the passage of time. A participant in the sort of eternal process of decay/death therefore. But then in normal grammatical space time a verb happens and then it's happening ends. The change is initiated. A coin is dropped into the fountain of space time; there are ripples. Time moves forward. 
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>> But the gerund form, if you'll go with me, sort of preserves that flux/change in stasis. Kind of cryogenically preserves it. If something screams across the sky, the scream goes across the sky and then it is across the sky, and the scream is done. But if a screaming comes across the sky, where does that end? The flux of the scream is perpetuated within the virtual grammatical space of the gerund. It goes on forever inside there. A screaming. Inside the walls of the gerund form, the screaming is ongoing. So already there is a kind of temporal dialectic between the instant and eternity, between constancy and flux, and, we keep getting down to it, life and death, or whatever language you use for the fundamental dialectical binary, if you do. 
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>>> On Mar 14, 2016, at 1:40 AM, Ian Livingston <igrlivingston at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> “A screaming comes across the sky. It has happened before, but there is nothing to compare it to now…."
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>>> Okay, this is pure and simple association, but I must say the whole of Jung's dream plays out quite well with the opening section of GR. Further parallels as we go.
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>>> “The crucial dream anticipating my encounter with alchemy came around 1926: I was in the South Tyrol. It was wartime. I was on the Italian front and driving back from the front line with a little man, a peasant, in his horse-drawn wagon. All around us shells were exploding, and I knew we had to push on as quickly as possible, for it was very dangerous.
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>>> “We had to cross a bridge and then go through a tunnel whose vaulting had been partially destroyed by the shells." C G Jung, MDR, 203.
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>>> The Great Wars and the Depression between them left deep scars all across Europe. It wasn't just the soldiers who suffered nightmares in the aftermath. Jung's descent into the maelstrom led to his fascination with alchemy, which in turn influenced the work of Campbell, Eliade, and others. MDR was quite popular at about the time Pynchon was working on GR. 
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>>> Any other associations folks can relate to this opening? I think it deserves all the color it elicits.
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