Whose dream is it?

David Morris fqmorris at gmail.com
Tue Mar 15 00:02:48 CDT 2016


I think it is a dream/nightmare of one of the White Visitations patients,
someone with Real trauma. In other words, it is our nightmare. Pirate's
later dream is less universal, and not scary at all.

David Morris

On Monday, March 14, 2016, Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:

> Crazy thoughts as we start
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> Is Pirate in Slothrop's dream?  Whose dream/nightmare is it?  What is the
> connection of this dream to time, to Dante’s vision, to the holocaust, to
> Von Braun quote, to enzian’s rocket lost in time? To Joyc’s circular time?
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> Slothrop - Thomas  Ruggles Pynchon -   Porthos +L  Pynchon likes boys
> adventure fiction Porthos sounds like pork and port he liked food, wine, he
> was portly but bold .The added L moves Porthos from the heroic to the lazy,
> slothful. Protagonist from subject to object.
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> Porthos takes my thoughts to -The man in the Iron Mask- ( no one ever saw
> his face because it was hidden by a mask of black velvet cloth.)(
> Wikipedia) Iron appears often in the first pages of Beyond the Zero along
> with velvet: “Above him lift girders old as an iron queen”  the lost souls
> in the iron train, “velvet black surfaces contain the movement:” “It is
> some vast, very old and dark hotel, an iron extension of the track ”“the
> evacuees are taken in lots, by elevator—a moving wood scaffold open on all
> sides, hoisted by old tarry ropes and cast-iron pulleys whose spokes are
> shaped like Ss. ”“His name is Capt. Geoffrey (“Pirate”) Prentice... His
> skull feels made of metal.”
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> Later in the novels others are contained in steel rockets/bombs as a
> result of insatiable lust both for revenge and submission.
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